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Poll on expanding Rule #5

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@Kazapsky  
The law doesn’t give a shit about fetishes. It specifically prohibits images which depict “minors” in sexual acts. Fictional magical cartoon horses don’t count as minors under the law, regardless of your headcanon.
Kazapsky
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).

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@Background Pony
 
Yeah, and I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
 
I’ve got 12 different tags in my filters just to block “human/humanized” material, and stuff still gets through. If tagging rules could be enforced effectively, that list would be 1 or 2 entries long.
Background Pony #B453
@Kazapsky  
Guess what. If the mods can’t properly enforce tagging rules 100% of the time, what makes you think they can properly enforce content rules 100% of the time?
 
Let’s say someone uploads a picture of a cum-drenched toy without any tags. What difference does it make whether, after a 5 minute delay, a mod deletes the image entirely or fixes the tags? Either way you never have to see the image again, and either way there is still that 5 minute window in which you will see it regardless of the rules.
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If your going to do a vote on whether not the fausticon porn should be allowed, Lauren already said she is all for cloping and even said she can’t wait for the next banned from equestia update to come out but does say she would like it if we didn’t do any porn of her. Also the Nazi stuff should be removed.
Nothing to say.
goats
I try to be open about what people like to look at but at the same time I really don’t want this place to degenerate into some kind of horrid porn fetish site.
Some would argue it’s a bit late for that.
 
 
Don’t start banning stuff just because you dislike it.
If the admins banned stuff we didn’t like, this place wouldn’t even have a tenth of the images it has now.
 
 
NO FAT CHICKS
i have nothing to say
About fucking time a poll like this was held. The cum on toy and cosplay shit have gone on for far too long. If the images of the fanatic fans in nude bodypaint in public continue to exist here, as well as the cum stained toys, the brony hate subreddits will have been vindicated completely.
I’m not sure I can properly express with words or images how little anyone should care about those subredits/tumblrs. It’s, like, not much at all.
 
 
Boobies are nice
As long as it’s pony related, shouldnt nothin be outright banned from this site. We got a good tagging system, so niggas can customize they experience.
Both these things, however, are understandably somethin you negros dont wanna be known for. spoilering/hiding by default is the best policy
He never drops character, it’s impressive.
 
 
If nudity/exhibitionism is allowed, where should we draw the line?
I said it shouldn’t be, so….why do I need to choose an option
Blame Carcer, or Google. One of the two.
 
 
I apparently just answered a poll were the word ““cum”” and ““toy”” were in the same sentence… Huh…
inorite
 
 
I love cum on toy shots. It’s my filthy little secret. Don’t tell anyone though. o.o
Cum on toy is beyond words that can describe the disgust I feel towards it.
Thanks for being cool, Derpibooru. Never change.
The Smiling Pony
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Celestial Glory - Helped others get their OC into the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
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Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
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King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!

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56% is a majority plus a statistical margin of error, with almost a full percentage point left over. Statistical majorities are pretty black-and-white. But if you really want to get cute about it, there’s a total of 75% that don’t want it showing up on their screen at all, and a further 11% that want a clear-cut warning.
Oh, and if loli/shota is against the law, ergo banned, why does searching “foalcon” (which is the same fetish under a different name) return more than zero results?
Again, the result would be content that 44% of the users want on the board be banned. A difference 12% is not large enough to do something so drastic.
 
And under our jurisdiction cartoon horses of any age are not considered minors.
 
 
@Kazapsky  
Yeah, and I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
I’ve got 12 different tags in my filters just to block “human/humanized” material, and stuff still gets through. If tagging rules could be enforced effectively, that list would be 1 or 2 entries long.
Tagging will be enforced much more heavily and uniformly by site staff itself, as the tags are now “official”.
Kazapsky
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).

Five scoops of ice cream
Tagging will be enforced much more heavily and uniformly by site staff itself, as the tags are now “official”.
 
I’ll believe that when I stop seeing the evidence to the contrary.
The Smiling Pony
Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Sonata Dusk - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Celestial Glory - Helped others get their OC into the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Hero - Went above and beyond for the Solar Deity, drawing from the power of the sun itself to bring balance to the fight against the Lunar Insurrection (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!

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The internet is weird
My only regret is that the exhibitionism tag will probably never overlap with “impossibly large breasts”
There’s still photoshop!
 
 
Who would cum on a toy?!
ur a faget,
but seriously good job chaps.
[…]What about fetish related, but non nude pics, with real humans?
I’ve seen some diaper stuff around. I guess it’s hard to filter that too though.
That’s hard to say. If it’s something that’s clearly meant to be sexual we’ll likely apply the tag and comment about it.
 
 
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@Kazapsky  
You are demanding the impossible. The only way to guarantee that you will never, ever see any objectionable content is to unplug your computer. Even then someone might decide to take their clothes off in the middle of the street while you are walking past.
The Smiling Pony
Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Sonata Dusk - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Celestial Glory - Helped others get their OC into the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Hero - Went above and beyond for the Solar Deity, drawing from the power of the sun itself to bring balance to the fight against the Lunar Insurrection (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!

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Butts
Defaults don’t bug me, but untagged pictures are annoying. As long as something is tagged properly I can filter it out to taste. I expect to no longer see this kind of material but far too often it still pops up because of not being tagged correctly. I understand that comes down to the uploader’s responsibility, but perhaps featuring a list of touchy subject tags more prominently would help.
Tagging for these things will be moderated more heavily now. As for a “touchy subject” tag list, I do have a plan for a helpful/popular tags dropdown thing on the upload page, but nothing happening anytime soon. Another problem is a lot of these images are uploaded by trolls (not all) and they want the image to hit as many unsuspecting users as possible, so giving them tag suggestions won’t actually do anything.
 
 
No to censorship
I think that supporters of censorship of any sort should be silenced.
These are some… Interesting new additions.
The bliss of ignorance, I take it… This stuff’s been going on for over two years now.
 
 
As far as I am aware, Derpibooru was created to host a multitude of different types of brony culture artwork. That doesn’t mean every type must be tolerated here. Leave the pornography to the private blogs and sites where it is accepted; Derpibooru should not be there for it.
Banning porn seems a bit extreme.
 
 
Please do more polls like this in the future. I feel like it helps the community by letting the masses show their feelings on topics, or at least the ones who go to the poll in the first place.
Honestly I hope there won’t be a need for more polls.
 
 
I’m seeing a lot less IWTCIRD and that makes me happy c:
Memes come and go. It’ll make a resurgence, I’m sure.
 
 
Excelsior!
ender1200
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Well the people have spoken. Better tag enforcement on those images is going to have a good effect.  
Though i wonder how many of the people who voted for the CoT staying did that on the off case someone else is interested in this but would not mind seeing it banned themselves.  
No matter, as long as it out of sight and no one from the outside is giving us shit about not deleting it outright, this really isn’t a big deal anymore.
The Frowning Pony

Administrator
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In case it’s not obvious, I’m skipping 90% of the comments, as they’re kind of mostly the same.
 
“no to censorship”, “CoT disgusts me, BAN IT”, “just spoiler it, christ”, “cosplay is ok but no to spew on toy”, etc
 
 
Also Merch Sexploitation made hidden again, should be working properly now.
The Smiling Pony
Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Sonata Dusk - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Celestial Glory - Helped others get their OC into the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Hero - Went above and beyond for the Solar Deity, drawing from the power of the sun itself to bring balance to the fight against the Lunar Insurrection (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!

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Cum on toy is one of the few things I bother to block. But there’s no question cumming on a MLP toy is related to MLP, and at this point is basically a genre.
I’d change my mind if you could show by IP addresses that it all really was coming from three or fewer people posting the same tired shit (well, same tired cum) over and over.
Well, I’m not going to show you IPs, but I can tell you that over half of the CoT images are uploaded by known trolls. The others by “seemingly normal” users or random BPs.
 
 
2 things: 1) if only there was a check that I can check to erase all the automatically hidden or spoiled tag so I didn’t have to put soo many tags on my “Visible tag list” 2) if only there was a way to hide specific pictures from ever seeing them again instead of forcing us to either constantly see them or hide everything related to it… But those are just my opinions
  1. is a thing we want to do, but is sadly not simple. 2. is “impossible”, we run on next to no budget, so the current servers just can’t handle that level of fine filtering.
     
     
………Avatars should be displayed when doing a comment on a FanArt, just saying…….
Yes, they should be. Pretty low priority, though.
 
 
Good job guys :3
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On the topic of ““cum on toy””, while it may be a a fetish that a large majority hates, there is still a minority that enjoys it, For instance, Gentle Coltte of Leisure has become derpibooru-famous for his fart fetish. Someone could argue ““what makes my fetish so different from his””. Many people just laugh the farts away when it comes to GCoL, yet become viciously agitated when the ““cum on toy”” pics started.
Well, probably the primary difference is one is drawings and the other real.
 
 
I could easily accept the idea that a bunch of trolls jumped onto this vicious response the ““cum on toy”” pics. To deal with the large userbase that dislikes everything related to this tag, and these trolls in one fell swoop, just put ““cum on toy”” as hidden by default. That way, people who actually want it can see it in an easy to locate manner; people who hate it won’t have any excuse for still seeing it despite being hidden by default (aka they looked for it, or allowed themselves to see it); and anyone making content for the tag for the sole reason of trolling the people who decided to unhide explicit will likely stop creating that content, further purifying the tag to those who actually enjoy the fetish. If people upload the pics without the appropriate tag, treat them the same way you would treat people uploading pictures during a raid. (eg mass horse dicks spam).
This is a good point. Now that it’s fully opt in, anyone causing a scene over it just to bitch has no excuse and will be subject to moderation, and trolls won’t be able to get any legit bits unless they mistag, which will get them banned very quickly.
 
 
For real human nudity or exhibitionism, the site should ensure that it has the consent of the subject to feature a given picture.
This would be kind of hard to achieve. If we see anything obvious like a panty shot or something, then yeah delete. Otherwise, pretty much impossible to trach down the sources of a lot of these images.
 
 
Real humain nudity can be found and posted anywhere on the Web, unlike the Cum-on-toy pictures. Sometimes, it is useful to have offensive and insulting pictures to, let’s say, start intelligent discussions on Internet, how would we find such pictures if one of the most relative image category is excluded from the only (well, almost only) centralized place where one can easily find them?
I guess it’s true that this stuff exists and it has to go somewhere. I guess we’ve managed to put ourselves in a position where it’s “our duty” to host anything considered remotely pony related.
 
 
If anything should be hidden by default, it’s the “equestria girls” tag!
The Smiling Pony
Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Sonata Dusk - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Celestial Glory - Helped others get their OC into the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Hero - Went above and beyond for the Solar Deity, drawing from the power of the sun itself to bring balance to the fight against the Lunar Insurrection (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!

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“Bronies Rock. Luna is best pony.
Go planet Equis”
Go with it
nope
MERICA
thank you.
“First, a global poll is a bad way to make a decision on a controversial issue such as this. I would be surprised if many people voted significantly differently on this poll than they do when up/down-voting images on the site, so you may as well simply delete all images which get heavily downvoted. Further, if my assumption is correct that this poll is open to all registered users, then there will be many people voting who are in no way affected by the outcome since they have explicit content filtered already.
Second, derpibooru is something of a rarity among pony-related image boards in that it has both a large user base and an extremely permissive set of rules (basically only illegal things are banned). I think it would be a great shame to see this site move towards a more heavily moderated stance, especially so soon after 4chan has done much the same.
If need be, create stricter tagging guidelines or change the default visibility of such posts, but please don’t ban them outright. The entire point of the tagging system is to let people filter the content they don’t wish to see.
Note: this is coming from someone who has no real interest in either ““cum on toys”” or ““no hooves”” images. I merely value freedom.”
Well fortunately the “MUH FREEDOMS” crowd (which includes me) was big enough to avoid a full ban. Rejoice, everyone’s not as horrible as you thought!
 
 
I’m only afraid of haters/troll’s repercussions, like anon people not tagging correctly just bc the image have content not allowed or hidden by default.
They could already do that before. Now it means we ban them faster and for longer.
 
 
anthro chart needs to be aliased to furry chart due to tag vandals
Poll comments are not the place to file reports…
 
 
And that’s it. I did read every comment, but only responded to the “same question” once or to amusing/wat comments, no sense repeating myself and all that.
 
Also, there were a fair number of people that considered CoT more pony related than cosplay/bodypaint. Just saying since that was unexpected for me.
Petedash
Perfect Pony Plot Provider - Uploader of 10+ images with 350 upvotes or more (Questionable/Explicit)
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Great job trolls , you’ve won.  
You can now start posting scat on toys , piss on toys and vomit on toys.
 
They’re all allowed. If there’s a pony. Artistic.
 
Congrats.
 
The whole thing ended up hiding some tags by default…you missed a chance to show some balls towards those dumb enough to post their fresh cum on innocent toys. It’s fun to be in the majority here.
The Smiling Pony
Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Sonata Dusk - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Celestial Glory - Helped others get their OC into the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Hero - Went above and beyond for the Solar Deity, drawing from the power of the sun itself to bring balance to the fight against the Lunar Insurrection (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!

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@Petedash  
They’re not going to be able to troll anyone that didn’t chose to see the images… So that’s not really how trolling works.
 
Also toys aren’t innocent, they’re toys.
Background Pony #B453
@Petedash  
Oh how absolutely terrible! People are permitted to post images which you disapprove of (but never have to actually see). God forbid anyone’s tastes differ from your own.
KrashKangaroo
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!
Since the Beginning  -

I don’t like the idea of hiding tags by default for any tag. I think spoilering by default is enough.
 
For any innocent soul to be offended by a spoilered image, they have to make a deliberate effort to despoiler it. There is zero chance of accidental offence. They can then add a tag to their hidden list themselves to remove a bunch of spoiler images that are no more than a minor inconvenience.
 
When you go out in public it’s reasonable to expect everyone to wear clothes to cover up their genitals. The only people who should get to see someone else’s genitals are those who deliberately make the effort to see someone naked. This is analogous to spoilering. Hiding tags by default is like saying that everyone has to stay indoors so that nobody knows naked people even exist. Because if you see someone in clothes you’re gonna know that there’s titties underneath and won’t somebody please think of the children.
 
I too would very much value options to disable all spoilers and all hidden lists, to make everything always visible.
 
Also, if it’s not hard work, how about an optional query string that despoilers/unhides automatically. eg ?despoiler=1 and ?unhide=1  
It’s possible to bypass spoilers/hiding by just linking directly to the image file, but that doesn’t allow navigation back to the page with votes/comments.
The Smiling Pony
Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Sonata Dusk - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Celestial Glory - Helped others get their OC into the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Hero - Went above and beyond for the Solar Deity, drawing from the power of the sun itself to bring balance to the fight against the Lunar Insurrection (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!

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@KrashKangaroo  
Hiding works because this is an image gallery with only so many images to display per page. If a majority of people absolutely do not want to see this content, it makes no sense to by default take up space to show that it exists.
 
As for a quick unhide button, if it were that simple it would have been done long ago. If you know RoR, elasticsearch, mongodb, hit up Clover the Clever in IRC.
Rpground
Not a Llama - Happy April Fools Day!

Chaotic Neutral
Sometimes,the best way to fix a problem is to cater to both sides of a conflict instead of just one.
 
Well done, especially on the “there wasn’t enough of a majority to call for banning”. That’s a good one,yes it was majority but only by 6%. That isn’t enough to call a vote for something like this. If it was me,I would of put the ban vote to go through at 70% at least instead of 60%. I agree that feels to low.
 
But yeah, kudos to the admins.
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