POLL: Best Style?

@XxMobianEquinexX  

No. They can do them better. Take a look at the final battle of The Great Mouse Detective for a quick example. It doesn’t have any flashy effects and is slow, but still manages to be epic because it doesn’t need flashy effects or high-speed. You can feel every blow and every emotion; the pain and fear in Basil is done fantastically as he frantically tries to get away from an unstoppable opponent.
 

Yes. Fantasia. While there’s nothing in it that is bad for kids, it was very clearly intended for an adult audience (bonus points in that it came out in a time when animation was strictly intended for young audiences). It goes beyond even being just an adult piece; it’s a work of art. Even then all-age Disney tends to be more adult than “adult” anime to begin with. Especially with fight and death scenes. Disney knows how to evoke any emotion without being so blatantly adult that kids can’t enjoy it, which is something I’ve never seen an anime pull off (except for Studio Ghibli but we’ve already established they’re in a completely different league than anime).

@DanielTepesKraus  
Can i add something to the argument?
 
why is it called Anime and not animation? Is it because it’s animation from Japan?
 
Why isn’t animation from other countries given their own distinction like animation from japan does?
 
like animation from Germany or UK?
 
That’s why i purpose that anime is a STYLE of animation like Stop motion is a style.
 
Otherwise it’d be like the early 2000’s where everyone called anything that was Computer animated “PIXAR”

@Pikapetey  
Anime is the abbreviated pronounciation of “animation” in Japanese. As far as I know they refer to any form of animation as Anime, whereas in the Western world we sort of took to using it as a label to distinguish the Japanese stuff. Like how we call their comics “manga” when we could just call them comics.

@DanielTepesKraus
 
Then why is it when someone in a western culture does an “anime” style is it considered “anime” instead of “animation?”

@Pikapetey  
I’d assume it’s because people have equated that style with that term.

Jeez, this is really becoming an anime bashing thread, lol.
 
But i know you’re right, a lot of animes are stiff or the frames are low. But i just feel just blanketing all anime as that is a little shallow and ignorant of a lot of the things thats been done with it. Granted im referring to japanese animation in general when i say that, not just the made for tv style of animation with the mentioneded issues.
 
I keep thinking of the animation style of Akira or short series like Starrust Memory. Those have a lot of frames to them. and done by hand unless im crazy.
 
I also tend to think of Blue sub six for the crazy flowy look to it.

^Sono again btw, cant sign in from my ipod b

Idk,
 
it’s probably the fact that i’m an animator myself, I’m cursed to only see production values whenever I watch anything. (films, tv, games) Because anime has a lesser production value when compared to Disney, it’s all i see.
 
It’s very hard for me to get lost in anything anymore, I only take comfort in creating more animation.
 
Moral of the story, If you love animation, don’t learn how to create it, cause you’ll ruin it for yourself.

@Background Pony #B4AC  
That is true, but that’s what the whole topic of this thread was: blanket all anime, blanket all Disney, and compare them. Disney as a whole tends to be more artisitically driven where they use visuals to show emotion, where anime tends to be more dialogue driven where they use speech and exposition to tell you what to feel. That’s not to say Disney doesn’t have exposition sometimes and Anime doesn’t have pretty visuals sometimes, but again if we’re going to blanket the two terms it’s Disney who takes the cake.

The more realistic 1960’s Hannah Barbara Style.  
I.E. Johnny quest, Thundarr the Barbarian or The Herculoids!  
Ya done fucked up and thought there are only two styles that should be considered son! Now I’m off to watch some Scoobie-Freaking-doo!  
I’m out!

with anime, it depends on the studio.  
with disney, it depends on the decade.
 
anime is slightly better, not because they produce better art, but because they’re not a megalomaniacal totalitarian monopolistic megacorporation bent on twisting society to sicken their ability to love, and destroying any creativity outside their control. disney is the worst
 
if disney were just a style, that would be fine. but disney is a style that very powerful people claim to own.
 

@redweasel
 
Once again I repeat myself.
 
We are talking about VISUAL STYLES and comparing them.
 
Things we are not discussing:
 
-corporate polices of the individual studios  
-The intended audience of the medium. (because obviously if Disney wants to remain family friendly market, they can’t do adult scenes with blood and gore can they?)  
-Treatment of employees  
-writing

@Pikapetey  
How else are they going to make Disney look worse than anime?

@DanielTepesKraus
 
I just want to point out that kids today STILL enjoy Sleeping Beauty, Snow white, and Cinderella. those films are over 50 years old.
 
How many anime’s can say the same?
 
Let’s not forget The Little Mermaid, How many little girls you know of will stop what they are doing and stare transfixed at the screen while Ariel is singing “Part of Your World”
 
Learning animation and drawing has only made me start to appreciate Disney EVEN MORE, where as anime I see the same cut and paste style, same acting chioces, same movements.

well i for one prefer the angular flatness that anime gives because i cannot draw arms and legs that good. in fact the only us animation artists that i like are Genndy Tartakovsky (Dexter’s Lab/Sym-Bionic Titan/Hotel Transylvania) and Bruce Timm (DC Comics). Speaking of Bruce Timm:  
 
His take on Rei Ayanami

@Pikapetey  
Now for fair and balance, though, anime hasn’t even existed in the west for that long. I think shows like Miyazaki’s work (sorry man, tomato tomato) will have that same effect once time does it’s thing. My 10 year old girl had the same reaction to Ponyo that she did to The Little Mermaid.
 
When it boils down to it, other than explosions and the occasional tech porn, anime is far less artistically driven than Disney. They focus much more on dialogue and exposition to tell their story. It works, yeah, but it won’t have much of an impact on kids who have short attention spans.
 
As for me, personally, I’ve yet to see an anime that left any meaningful impact on me like Disney has. I saw The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh in theaters when I was 8 years old and I still remember it. That’s one hell of an impact.

@DanielTepesKraus  
Have you ever seen Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann? Trust me, It’s not something that’s easily forgotten.