Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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@kylebiddle  
No. They said they couldn’t arrest her even though there was circumstantial evidence of corruption surrounding her. THAT is why they couldn’t arrest her.
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@Hypnosryan  
Both sides are insane as far as I am concerned. However, the more pressing side is the far left. Until they back off of their far left mindset and trying to silence differing opinions I will be against the left.
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@Ainz Ooal Gown  
It’s funny you should mention that, being as the left was soured by Trump. At least Hillary would have had the experience to deal with something like this, rather than Trump who wants to just barge in and fuck everything up. The republicans are in COMPLETE control, they have the house, senate, and the Presidency, so there’s NO EXCUSE for this abysmal performance.  
@Ainz Ooal Gown  
In other words there wasn’t enough evidence to convict, that’s how the law should work.
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@Hypnosryan  
Except it’s not bullshit. It’s not the only reason Hillary lost, but that doesn’t even matter because politics is separate from the law. Hillary’s emails were hacked by the Russians, ILLEGALLY. The Trump campaign conspired with them in order to influence the results of the election. That is a crime. And we have proof, unlike the ‘what about Hillary’ crowd.
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I’d prefer you link to a different source. I’d prefer not to get my news from late night left wing ideologues.
 
So nothing he said is true because in your mind he’s a member of the ‘left wing ideology’? that makes no sense. Arbitrary skepticism.  
Last I heard, the people who plead guilty did so to crimes that didn’t involve colluding with the Russian government to influence the election.
 
Collusion isn’t a crime. Listen to Comey tell his side of the story.  
Until someone is actually found guilty of collusion
 
Collusion isn’t a crime punishable by law. That’s not what the Meuller investigation is looking into. Didn’t you watch the video I just posted?  
When someone is found guilty you can tell me “I told you so” all you want, but please forgive my skepticism until then.
 
Your skepticism makes no sense. You and I aren’t privy to the exact details of an ongoing federal investigation. As for this ‘you can indict a ham sandwich’ people don’t get indicted for no reason. 5 people have pleaded guilty already and a bunch more are cooperating with the investigation.
 
From Politifact
 
What has the investigation produced so far?
Within a month of his appointment, Mueller began looking into the question of whether Trump obstructed justice.
On Oct. 30, 2017, Paul Manafort and his business partner Rick Gates — two former senior officials with the Trump campaign — were indicted on 12 counts related to their political consulting business, including money laundering. Also on that day, George Papadopoulos, a former Trump campaign aide, pled guilty to making false statements to the FBI.
On Dec. 1, 2017, Flynn pled guilty to making false statements to the FBI about conversations he’d had with then-Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak.
On Feb. 16, 2018, Mueller indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities on charges related to the 2016 election.
Days later, Dutch lawyer Alex van der Zwaan pled guilty for lying to the FBI about his dealings with Gates and another unnamed person. He was later sentenced to 30 days in prison.
On Feb. 22, Mueller upped the ante against Manafort and Gates with 32 new financial charges. Within days, Gates pled guilty to conspiracy and lying to the FBI. Manafort, however, has continued to fight his charges.
Beyond these official acts, the Mueller investigation has publicly announced little about what it is doing, and leaks from its own ranks have been scarce to nonexistent. So its activities remain largely hidden.
 
Not that I think a different link would show anything we don’t already know.
 
Who’s this ‘we’ crap? You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. I on the other hand have actually been paying attention to this issue.
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@Ainz Ooal Gown  
No…not from people who actually know what they’re talking about. Trump is the one who constantly spouts ‘no collusion no collusion’. You hear this shit on Fox News too. Remember what Comey said? The facts matter..legal terms are different than casual terms, like ‘leak’ or ‘collusion’. The problem is the waters are being muddied by people who don’t know the difference. Often through no fault of their own. Watch the James Comey/Anderson Cooper interview.
 
I didn’t know the difference when I first heard about this 2 year ago either.
 
Guys, watch the videos I’ve been posting, all the work has already been done for you, all you have to do is listen. This is why journalism is so important. You don’t know what you’re talking about so it has to be explained to you. THAT’S WHAT JOURNALISTS ARE FOR!
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@Hypnosryan
You mean like Russia hacking our election? :^)
You must have missed what the Senate Intelligence Committee concluded last month.  
WASHINGTON – The Senate Intelligence Committee — in a major split with its House counterpart — said Wednesday that it agrees with U.S. intelligence agencies’ assessment that the Russian government tried to help Donald Trump and hurt Hillary Clinton by meddling in the 2016 election.
That bipartisan conclusion was announced by Chairman Richard Burr, R-N.C., and Vice Chairman Mark Warner, D-Va., in a statement after a closed hearing with former director of national intelligence James Clapper, former CIA director John Brennan and former National Security Agency director Mike Rogers.
“The first task in our inquiry was to evaluate the intelligence community’s work on this important piece of analysis,” Burr said, referring to a report in January 2017 by U.S. intelligence agencies.
“Committee staff have spent 14 months reviewing the sources, tradecraft and analytic work, and we see no reason to dispute the conclusions,” Burr said. “There is no doubt that Russia undertook an unprecedented effort to interfere with our 2016 elections.”
USA TODAY
The president has been hesitant to acknowledge that Russia interfered on his part, ostensibly out of fear that doing so would undermine his win.
But now the Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee, which released its own assessment Wednesday, is contradicting the House report, saying that Russia did try to help Trump win.
“+Our staff concluded that the [intelligence community’s] conclusions were accurate and on point+,” Sen. Mark R. Warner (Va.), the panel’s top Democrat, said Wednesday in a joint statement with Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr (R-N.C.).
The Washington Post
And that’s not even going into the fact that back in February the heads of the top six American intelligence agencies unanimously reaffirmed Russian interference during testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee.
 
 
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Until someone is actually found guilty of collusion I don’t see a reason to believe this story.
I think you have an incorrect idea of what the scope of Mueller’s investigation actually is. The Special Counsel was authorized to look into (i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump, (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation, and (iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).  
28 CFR 600.4 - Jurisdiction.
(a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel’s investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.
So it’s a lot more than just “conspiring with Russia” that he’s looking into, and quite clearly he’s finding something. A year in he had charged 19 people and 3 companies with a combined 75 criminal charges. So you’ll have to forgive me here if I find your insistence that only someone being found guilty of collusion will convince you any of this is true a bit of a ridiculous condition for an investigation that is making great progress and finding significant evidence of wrongdoing.
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@kylebiddle
An ideologue is not someone who simply adheres to an ideology. I’m not so petty that I refuse to listen to anyone I disagree with politically. If that were the case, I would have to become a hermit.
An ideologue is to politics as a fundamentalist is to religion. It connotes a level of self-righteous zealotry with scorn for anyone who disagrees.
 
So you are getting caught up in word games instead of listening to people who actually know what’s going on.  
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This is the impression I get from John Oliver. In the videos I’ve seen from him, he seems dedicated to misrepresenting and mocking opposing views. He’s an comedian, not a journalist and it shows.
There is absolute no reason why you can’t be a journalist and also be entertaining.
His job is to entertain. I’d rather get my news from someone who’s more interested in informing.
So in your mind you can either entertain, or inform, there’s absolutely no reason you can’t do both those things? That’s simply not true.
I’ll grant that I probably shouldn’t have used the word “collusion.” I’m aware it’s not a crime in and of itself but I used it for a couple different reasons. The first is that it’s the term the media keeps throwing around anyway.
What media? Fox news? Trump? ‘the media’ are just people on the airwaves..that’s EVERYBODY.
The second is that I look at it as shorthand for at least one of a few different crimes: hacking the election
No serious person is claiming the election was hacked, that’s not the issue. Hillary’s EMAILS were hacked, not the election.
conspiring with the Russian government
This has been proven to be true
, electoral fraud,
Nobody is making that claim.
and any other related crimes
That’s what the Mueller investigation is, look at the results. The truth is, you’re too skeptical (for no good reason) to listen to anybody else, and too lazy to figure this out on your own.
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The world has become accustomed to Donald Trump, he is wearing them down. But dullness must not lead to normalizing and accepting its aggressive impertinence. The unproven allegation that the Federal Government and the state authorities would deliberately lie to the population about the true extent of local crime must not remain without consequences. His incitement of the rabid citizens is nothing more than the open attack of a foreign power on the government of this country. This White House is making a direct attempt to destabilise the Federal Republic of Germany.
Angela Merkel has reacted far too cautiously to this threat. The Chancellor referred only briefly to the recent crime statistics presented by Federal Interior Minister Horst Seehofer - that speaks for itself. In fact, crime has fallen slightly, and if there is a German politician who cannot be accused of euphemism in this matter, then it is Seehofer.
No, this US President has never been a partner, he’s a fierce opponent. We should start treating him accordingly. Appointing the US ambassador and formal protest can only be the first steps. Relations with this US administration should be kept to a minimum. It is also no longer necessary to continue to pretend to be friendly. Germany and the European Union should abandon any polite self-restraint in the public assessment of this US administration. The thread of conversation to her must not break, but it cannot be more than one thread. We have known for a long time that we can no longer rely on the USA under Donald Trump. Now at the latest it is clear: We must protect ourselves from him.
 
Source: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/donald-trump-der-feind-im-weissen-haus-kommentar-a-1213919.html
 
Title: The enemy in the White House
 
Der Spiegel (lit. “The Mirror”) is a German weekly news magazine published in Hamburg. It is one of Europe’s largest publications and known in German-speaking countries mostly for its investigative journalism. Der Spiegel has a distinctive reputation for revealing political misconduct and scandals.
 
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What just happened? O_o
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That’s what you get from that?
 
Jesus, man. You expect European countries to keep being deferential to the current administration when Trump’s out there constantly disrespecting them, ignoring them, and actively acting against them?
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Comme ci comme ça. It’s true that this isn’t the first time I have heard words like this among (idiotic) Europeans, but seriously it’s the first time I read harsh words like this in a relativly neutral (hated by both left and right wings) magazine most of the time considerable as a voice of reason. I’m actually starting to worry now. This is a direction I don’t like at all. (head-shaking)
 
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Well, the world was a better place prior 2001. The USA were friends back then. Maybe not best buddies, but a reliable friend and ally.
 
And this three days before the annual honoring of the Berlin Airlift…
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Eh, saw this coming for months. Was just wondering how long it’ll be.
 
In international politics, there’s no such things as friends. There never was and never will be. “Partners” only mean “working together to grow stronger”, the very bare definition. So long as you can benefit from the partnership, then you’re “friends”. Everyone tries to one-up one another. Everyone tries to take advantage of each other.
 
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