I can never forget.

This picture has found renewed vigor in the current state of things.
 
I wasn’t SOPA or PIPA to worry about. It was the ones on the inside all along.
 
Ironic.

@Barhandar  

No, it really doesn’t. At all.

Done two years ago, describes current state of the world and Derpi itself today perfectly.

TIL The Great Firewall of Kirin existed.

@Chimmy  
How odd that you side with the rich against the poor and wish for select groups to have their rights revoked, yet say you want the opposite. For someone against the bourgeoisie’s agenda, you seem to align yourself very closely with them.

@Chimmy  
Well, I don’t have any further points to make. You’re a very logical individual with a distinct point of view that’s in the interest of helping people rather than harming. I hope was able to provide my point of view effectively.

@marik_azemus34  
I was just mocking you. You should be critical of any news you view.
 
@Flummoxed Phoenix  
I’m against capital having political power over labour. I’m for better treatment of all. Any overlap with the goals of capital (of which I doubt any sincerity on their part) doesn’t disqualify my views as a part of their “agenda” (I really dislike that word).

@Chimmy  
Why, indeed, would they share your agenda? Or are you too busy accepting their help that you don’t even think to question the price of that help? You can’t really believe that the super rich don’t have a profit motive.

@Chimmy  
I’ll trust him and Alex Jones over any media website or news station any day. At least Alex is entertaining.
 
News stations are linked with government entities to leak hit pieces on politicians and private citizens that are a threat to them. They lie, bully the competition, induce fear and paranoia, and then invoke the first amendment when people call them out, even though libel and slander are grounds for fines and lawsuits.
 
The Wall Street Journal tried to deplatform PewDiePie by calling him a Nazi, even though he only dressed up as a jackboot as a joke. YouTubers and other independent media outlets are constantly being harangued and accused of bigotry, harassment and hate crimes that don’t even exist, regardless of political alignment.
 
If a multi-million dollar, worldwide news station is wrong, there are no consequences. Don’t you think that is a problem? If some independent news source is wrong, there’s a lot more holding them accountable, so I’d rather leave the reporting in their hands.
 
Also, if you don’t like what someone on a social media website is website, just block them.

@marik_azemus34  
Yeah let’s get away from the lamestream media and go watch our libertarian pagan rant about Hillary, that’s the real news!

@Flummoxed Phoenix  
Why would the richest people in the world be on “my side” as a lowly wage worker? I’m not even claiming that, I’m saying I give no fucks about people like Alex Jones or what have you getting banned from twitter or some equally inane shit. If someone gets banned from a social media website for saying some abhorrent shit I will not shed a tear.

@Flummoxed Phoenix  
Thank God big news networks are losing viewers and money, and missing link media like Vox and Salon are basically operating out of closets at this point. Nothing they’re doing to stop it is working. The fact that they’re responding to the crisis by doubling down on witch hunting and propaganda means they’ll just fall apart faster.
 
This is me watching the media complex burn:  

@Chimmy  
I notice that government, media and tech all seem to be on “your side.” One must wonder what all these rich people have to fear from the poor proletariat that they must silence us. Is it that they are protecting the truth or just themselves.
 
History has shown that when the rich and powerful seek to silence people, it isn’t for some greater good. Mark Twain was right when he said that history does not repeat itself, but instead rhymes.

@Chimmy  
And what do you define as a Nazi? On a scale of jackboot thugs pulling people from their homes and sending them to death camps to people who post Pepe on social media.
 
To my knowledge, Nazis make up less than 0.005 percent of the US population. You have a greater chance of being struck by lightning twice than running into one.
 
Government and big tech should not decide what is morally acceptable. That responsibility should fall to the people, free of any mass media to stretch the truth.

@redweasel  
Why should I care if the government stops people furthering goals that I am against. I’m not ideologically against governance in an abstract way, but instead critical of the actual actions they do. If they supress Nazis I am a-okay with that.

@Chimmy  

why should the government?

@redweasel  

 
No? I’m against reactionary agitation that undoes the good that has been done. I don’t hold opinions in the abstract but rather what they’ll actually produce. Why should I support racists, sexists, homophobes speech?
 
This is only contradictory if you confuse goals and tactics.
 
Why should I support struggles that are against things I support?

@Chimmy  

 
well okay, but don’t say I didn’t warn you.
 

no, I don’t. that was what marik was saying. I do argue for peaceful protest and activism to reduce the wealth disparity. but mostly I argue for strengthening friendships and your local community, and it’s not so important to protest what someone is scheming about in D.C.
 
but I mean, you’re arguing against agitation. the goals of agitators are opposite to the government, and therefore their ideas shouldn’t be allowed equal room. so I don’t know why you’d be arguing for agitation as well.

@redweasel  

 
Agitation for minimum wage and safe working conditions, elimination of child labour, fair legal rights of minority ethnic groups and sexualities, ending of slavery and indentured servitude were all worthy goals that involved political struggle.
 
You can’t really say that people shouldn’t have agitated for these things (because they do anyway) and remain apathetic to preserve some sense of order in a situation that is horrible for them.
 
The rest of your post I can’t be bothered with, I doubt your concern for my safety considering you would have ideas that endanger me to be allowed to propagate.

@Chimmy
 
I’m sorry you feel that way. I think it could hurt you and others. but it hasn’t so far, for you at least, so hopefully I’m wrong.
 
for what it’s worth, I do support your right to block people from saying things you don’t like. it’s good to keep track of your enemies, but there’s no reason to let them upset and provoke you. they don’t have the right to force you to read or see something. I just don’t think it’s healthy to spend all your time in an environment where someone else gets to block people from you, whether you like it or not. we don’t really have any other options, other than places that do that, which is why we’re getting all polarized and hateful lately of people whose goals we start believing are opposite to our own.
 
@Chimmy
 
I think the idea is to teach people that using political and social conflict to fulfill your material needs, it never ends well. “aware of the consequences” and all. also they said “make the world more peaceful” not “make the world always peaceful with no conflict ever.” you have to admit, less fearmongering in the media would make things a lot more peaceful, even if it wouldn’t solve every problem.
 
but yeah you’re right, even if everyone is aware of the consequences, some are gonna start conflicts anyway. question is how many people can they drag down with them…

@marik_azemus34  

 
You could only really have this view if you ignore all economic and social motives. We don’t live in a world free of material need where only ideas exist.

@redweasel  
Propaganda can go both ways, you don’t only have to be in political power for it to be propaganda. If you want to waste your energy defending people whose goals are opposite your own feel free but I’d rather not because I don’t believe that simply allowing all ideas equal room leads to best application (assuming this could ever actually happen realistically when you have uneven numbers, funding etc.)

@marik_azemus34
 
though to be fair, removing all censorship might not be the way to make that happen. you can’t put an end to the fearmongering mainstream media complex without censoring it, after all.
 
I think people just need to be able to choose their moderators, from those that they’ve personally come to trust. instead we have to just trust whoever can force us to, without any way to appeal if they’re rotten. like how we’re born expected to obey a government, without verifying it’s in any way legit. and the people telling us that haven’t verified it either. we could all be defending the rule of thugs, and never know it, because nobody checked!

@Chimmy  
Unfiltered access to information, full disclosure and acceptance of political and social diversity, understanding the irreconcilable differences between nations, and the complete and utter destruction of the fearmongering mainstream media complex will help make the world a more peaceful place.
 
Peace isn’t people holding hands and singing around a multinational Christmahannukwanzamadan tree; it’s people being so bored and aware of the consequences of pointless political and social conflict that they don’t start one in the first place.