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Somewhere, in the depths of the internet, there is a pony thread. We are all quite mad.
Well, Celestia is a perfectly good person, doesn’t matter if you believe it’s possible or not, it is the simplest of truths.
No one is perfectly good
Because perfectness is imposssbile.
Except Celestia DOES do good, because she’s a idealized fictional character, not a money-grubbing real life politician, she only has a “dark side” because people like to write her that way.
Luna is as much a figure of authority as Celestia.
People in power are never seem to any good to world.
That why I do it.
Call me Cynical
Leave it to Drinky to show you all why these people are retarded. Let’s give him a hand!
(Gotta love that sphinx-Luna)
For some odd reason it is really popular with ‘military bronies’ too. Look up the tag and the fb group for lots of “real badass here” pix. Guns with NLR logos, NLR military patches next to their unit patches, etc.
I’ll pull up a couple more examples in a bit.
What I’m saying is that Hardcore Luna fans and general cynical fans basically started it.
Why that guy unfairly insulted you when you were trying to defend Luna despite of you liking both characters? because he,along with loads of other people already have all this generalization that every Luna fan is nothing but some sort of NLR drone that can’t hear any different opinion and hates Celestia to bits.And that reputation was build by the Luna fans (from the crazy variety) themselves.
And like 441 said,it became a vicious cycle of hatred.
Back then,almost everyone sort of embraced Trollestia,it was something minor that most people didn’t mind,but then some fans took S1 Luna to heart and victimized her character,then created NLR and Tyrant Celestia and the rest is history.
And no,definitely it’s not justified for either side.
You’re saying it’s justified when Celestia fans bash Luna and her fans?
Think about it: why most Celestia fans ended up generalizing and treating Luna and Luna fans as shit?
Well, blame all the crazy Luna fans that came before you, it’s a vicious cycle of hatred. Crazy Luna fans hate Celestia and hate on Celestia fans, Celestia fans, by turn, become spiteful and start hating on Luna fans, and then hate on non-crazy Luna fans, who start to be mistrustful of Celestia fans.
I was exaggerating in my post, though it was kind of a response to all the hate Tia got early on (and still does, sometimes).
Usually I reserve judgement to those who openly dislike Tia for stupid reasons. If someone says they like Luna over Celestia, well, that’s all fine and good. But if they call Tia a bitch, or tyrant, or troll, my opinion of them declines rapidly.
>Could your view that Luna fans hate Celestia be stemming from a similar such misconception?
Hmmm,nope,not in my case and well,I can say that those misconceptions exists,but those are pretty much like the 1% or 2% of the cases.
You see,as I have stated before,I do like canon Luna.Just because I love Celestia more doesn’t mean that I automatically hate Luna.
I can’t really find a genuine reason to hate her that is not linked to her hardcore crazy fans and the fanon said fans created about her so…yeah,I don’t hate her.
The character herself is ok,despite what some people might say like “the writers don’t know what to do with her”,“she has drastically changed ever since Luna Eclipsed” (I always lol at that one).
I’ve seen that most Luna fans though,(and I say most because there are exceptions) seem to have this aversion to Celestia almost as a default.Why? I would say is simply because difference preferences and character projection in various degrees.
There’s a sector pf Luna fans that are kids and manchildren/womenbrats who mentally refuse to get out of their teens.For them,Luna represents rebellion and Celestia as the authoritative figure they despise or they like Luna because they like her color scheme better while Celestia is the “pretty pink girly pony princess it hurts my eyes”(again,I’m not saying ALL of her fans are like that,there are plenty of people who love Luna that are reasonable and not radical.Unfortunately,the hardcore sector is the one that represents them as a whole).
I think If we could make a poll in which every fan of the show (and I say EVERY FAN)gets to choose which royal sister is his/her favorite,I could say that Luna would still win,but lets break down that poll and classify every person who voted,we could find why.
That,and what @441TheSecond said are the main reasons as of why they hate her.
The best one is still the one where Twilight and Luna realise Celestia is quite mad but the other elements don’t believe them so they have to put’em all down >;3
moh hoh haw haw
It used to be incredibly widespread. It was big on Devian Tart and had its own massive server on Minecraft. One very fun to raid, at that. Basically, they’re responsible for most of the trollestia and tyrantlestia fanon being a lot less tongue-in-cheek than it ought to be. They’re hardly a thing anymore, but it’s a thing that happened.
You can still find the odd “New Lunar Republic” fanfic, but they’re instantly downvoted to hell because fortunately, the fandom has realized how retarded and not-canon all of that is.
and @MagnificentTrixie
This is the reason I find it difficult to tell people I like Luna better than Celestia. I don’t dislike Celestia at all but people always assume I’m the type to condemn Celestia even though I have a deep appreciation for sunbutt.
That’s why I usually just tell people I’m a Cryssi fan
I thought the NLR was always a joke, or just the default name for Luna overthrowing Celestia for whatever reason. I didn’t know it was so relevant.
Blame the NLR. Even though it’s barely a thing these days, its tyrantlestia fandom pandering sent ripples throughout the fandom, and ultimately both princesses are typically seen as things they aren’t.
I guess that’s what happens when you write two characters with an appealing first impression, then straight-up refuse to develop either of them.
No… not really, the hatred most Luna fans have for Celestia stems from back in the early days of the fandom, where Celestia was portrayed as a villain opressing poor widdle Luna, and some Luna villains took it waaaaay too seriously and saw Fanonlestia and Celestia as one being.