On the other hand, the 90s were when people started realizing kids did not in fact have goldfish-like attention spans and could understand an actual plot. 80s Spider-Man could punch people, but 90s Spider-Man could go through a season-long story about horrific mutations, or dealing with MJ’s apparent death. And even if they couldn’t say the K-word, people who were not Uncle Ben got dead and stayed dead in that series.
Also, there was Batman: The Animated Series, and, well, the list just gets too long. But it’s really visible with comic book franchises like that because you have the same characters done different ways. Challenge of the Superfriends versus Justice League. Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends versus S:TAS.
Because certain words couldn’t be used and it was kind of annoying, how detrimental it was to the story has been magnified in fans’ eyes in hindsight. Suddenly nothing matters but whether bullets or lasers were being fired. But the fact is, you can tell a truly deep and epic story even if there is a millisecond-long flash when someone gets punched.
Not saying everything in the 80s sucked. But… don’t forget the new approach to storytelling that dawned later just because of things as insignificant as “when the dude punched the other dude, there was like a millisecond of white light.”
@Bardic_Knowledge
I suspect the G1 cartoons are somewhat more popular on Derpibooru than elsewhere in the fandom because there are actual examples of the show posted here, so people can see that, hey, there was some good stuff going on back then, too.
I have my doubts that such an approach would help G3/3.5, though…
@Amethyst_Crystal
It feels right balanced to me, but I’ve lower standards for the show. As I should ‘cause it’s for kids… Actually, it’s supposedly fun-for-the-family, LEGO game-like, but it feels like I can’t hold an argument with trolls using that… Although, I avoid all arguments.
@ender1200
FiM is like a hybrid of the two G1 shows, My Little Pony Tales that aired later was slice of life. It does feel like FIM has comparatively more of that than adventure, but it makes a good mix sometimes.
@SeraphimDawn
Except that this isn’t how things happened.
Faust always envisioned the show as an adventure slice of life hybrid. The reason it leans so heavily to the slice of life side is actually, as Faust herself said, budget constraints. Adventure stories take much much more time and resources to animate so there can be only be so much of them made every season.
And no Lauren’s leave dose not mark the end of the adventure episodes, The Chrystal empire and magic duel are two pure adventure episodes from season 3, and spike at your service had timber wolves almost killing spike and applejack (not to mention an actual fighting scene, Something that so far only happened there and in Canterlot wedding).
@Background Pony
A lot of the 80s kids & family animated movies and series were darker in tone. The 80s got really creative with fantasy and sci-fi stories, and being more open with kids about the possibilities of life, both good and bad.
Some of the voice acting and animation suffered, but I appreciate the dialogue and plots in contrast.
Reminds me how, oddly, the 90s was when some shows were forced to soften things up. Words like “die” and “kill” were not allowed at all on Saturday morning action cartoons like Spider-Man: TAS and were always “destroy,” punches had to have their impact “lessened” by putting in a flash so the “connect” wasn’t shown, and when things like Return of the Joker tried to give Joker a death by gunshot it was censored to… electrocution. o_o (okay that last one was weird, if anything electrocution sounds worse because a gunshot’s quick while electrocution is excruciating… I know someone who got struck by lightning, they said the shock was pretty bad). Ted Turner even forcibly cancelled SWAT KATS because he thought it was too violent.
Guess the 80s was more “hardcore” than I took it for. (90s kids here, actually kinda wish I could have experienced the 80s in some way)
@Trickquestion
There’s no dialogue this time around. Just snarling monsters and the pony gasping from the strain of causing the magical landslide. And glaring at her doomed enemies.
@Trickquestion
The original MLP writers were fans of D&D too, there’s a lot of little nods to the game, and they almost write as though they’re being Dungeon Masters sometimes too, the way some adventures feel.
Don’t you mean Rockbombs, They kinda look like them.
Also, there was Batman: The Animated Series, and, well, the list just gets too long. But it’s really visible with comic book franchises like that because you have the same characters done different ways. Challenge of the Superfriends versus Justice League. Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends versus S:TAS.
Because certain words couldn’t be used and it was kind of annoying, how detrimental it was to the story has been magnified in fans’ eyes in hindsight. Suddenly nothing matters but whether bullets or lasers were being fired. But the fact is, you can tell a truly deep and epic story even if there is a millisecond-long flash when someone gets punched.
Not saying everything in the 80s sucked. But… don’t forget the new approach to storytelling that dawned later just because of things as insignificant as “when the dude punched the other dude, there was like a millisecond of white light.”
(Buttons should be glad it’s not those terrors)
>>429464
I suspect the G1 cartoons are somewhat more popular on Derpibooru than elsewhere in the fandom because there are actual examples of the show posted here, so people can see that, hey, there was some good stuff going on back then, too.
I have my doubts that such an approach would help G3/3.5, though…
Cool.
It feels right balanced to me, but I’ve lower standards for the show. As I should ‘cause it’s for kids… Actually, it’s supposedly fun-for-the-family, LEGO game-like, but it feels like I can’t hold an argument with trolls using that… Although, I avoid all arguments.
What the hell was I talking about? XD
Either way, both shows are killer. :3
FiM is like a hybrid of the two G1 shows, My Little Pony Tales that aired later was slice of life. It does feel like FIM has comparatively more of that than adventure, but it makes a good mix sometimes.
Except that this isn’t how things happened.
Faust always envisioned the show as an adventure slice of life hybrid. The reason it leans so heavily to the slice of life side is actually, as Faust herself said, budget constraints. Adventure stories take much much more time and resources to animate so there can be only be so much of them made every season.
And no Lauren’s leave dose not mark the end of the adventure episodes, The Chrystal empire and magic duel are two pure adventure episodes from season 3, and spike at your service had timber wolves almost killing spike and applejack (not to mention an actual fighting scene, Something that so far only happened there and in Canterlot wedding).
Cheesy can be good in moderate well-timed doses.
Despite being cheesy and all. I have to agree with you on that the voice acting and music pretty bad.
A lot of the 80s kids & family animated movies and series were darker in tone. The 80s got really creative with fantasy and sci-fi stories, and being more open with kids about the possibilities of life, both good and bad.
Some of the voice acting and animation suffered, but I appreciate the dialogue and plots in contrast.
Guess the 80s was more “hardcore” than I took it for. (90s kids here, actually kinda wish I could have experienced the 80s in some way)
There’s no dialogue this time around. Just snarling monsters and the pony gasping from the strain of causing the magical landslide. And glaring at her doomed enemies.
I guess it’s all due to “perfect world, pretty pretty, frilly frilly, everyone is nice” became a atrocious norm.
Feels bad man.
“See you at the bottom!”
“You’ve fallen and you can’t get up!”
“Stoners…”
“Incoming Rockslide!”
“See you next fall!”
Which is what Faust originally intended FiM to be. But Hasbro still has their heads stuck up in G3.
Same, the more I see of it. The more I enjoy it.
We do not speak of G3!
Uhghhghhh! don’t mention that forbidden word!
The original MLP writers were fans of D&D too, there’s a lot of little nods to the game, and they almost write as though they’re being Dungeon Masters sometimes too, the way some adventures feel.
G3 is the only one that’s shameful.