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Who are you calling an idiot?
Well, it was kind of obvious with the sirens about. I’m pretty sure mind control is a staple power of a siren.
“Something Twilight should have realized when confronting Flash, especially since she has personal experience with this sort of thing”
Twilight barely knows Flash. Probably not easy for her to come to the conclusion you’re talking about.
@Poptard
Ah yes, the brain wash thing.
You know, I did bump into some people who made a few comics and such about Fluttershy ‘paying’ for her time that she was discorded. Of course, that was all humor based and none of it was taken seriously. Honestly, how can you? Flash and Trixie were both being used by someone else, either directly or not. {Something Twilight should have realized when confronting Flash, especially since she has personal experience with this sort of thing.} They had no real control of their actions.
Punishing them is essentially the same as punishing that clown from the PowerPuff Girls. He had no control of his actions, he didn’t want to harm anyone, and he was grateful that the girls stopped him and helped him return back to normal. He was then brutally assaulted and thrown in jail while the episode treated that as the right thing to do. It was especially cruel and mean spirited. That is what I get out of stuff like this.
Although, I know there won’t be any ‘Trixiebuse’ pics because ‘reasons’. She’s liked by a lot of the fanbase {I don’t know why. Until I read the comics, I thought she was kind of meh} and she’s female. Yeah, this fandom doesn’t care as much for males and it shows. Not saying that’s a rule {it’s not}.
Can’t wait to see the sequel pic where Sunset breaks the knees of Trixie for actively sabotaging and practically kidnapping the group, because that’s what brainwashed people deserve.
Exactly, this one gets it.
Are we completely sure this isn’t foreplay?
You do realize that ‘popular girls’ in high school films are often disliked by most people including the main cast right? They are only ‘popular’ because everyone is too afraid to defy them so they preffer to stay in their good graces. again, nothing new here.
You are the one saying she was ‘raised’ to pursue whatever. All we know is that she wanted power because she wanted at any cost. She was a shallow, boring villain and a huge part of why the movie was so weak.
People tend to forget what Celestia said about her. Princess Celestia reveals that Sunset was a former student of hers who began her studies not long before Twilight did. However, when she didn’t get what she desired as quickly as she wanted, she turned cruel and dishonest, eventually abandoning her studies to pursue her own path.
Nothing about that screams “I want to be popular” If anything her Fall Formal victories started out with it (note the innocence of the first pic on the wall) but seemed to increase that she ruled the school through fear, this does not imply Popularity.
Now if she were constantly throwing parties, or buying votes, throwing wealth around, or using her obvious good looks (which I think she would win on alone without all the fear) that would be different. So I think your point is correct,
I would say that if the term is being applied as an ordinary description, fine, but if it’s being used as a pejorative in order to influence others into agreeing with the “cliché” opinion, then it’s just a buzzword.
@Background Pony #8DF4
Again, it would seem that I have to remind you that Sunset Shimmer was not popular. She had exactly two sycophants, and that was it. And as it turns out, that suited her just fine, because winning popularity contests at school was not her ultimate goal. It was merely one of the many ways she used at some point to get what she wanted.
Also, I don’t know why you’re attacking Sunset’s motivation for more power by calling it “shallow”. She was raised by Celestia to pursue “greatness”, which eventually turned into selfish ambition. That’s what made her a villain. Complicating it more than that would not necessarily make it better somehow. Perhaps you forgot that tropes are merely tools.
I like Flash Sentry.
I honestly would not use Gary Stu to describe flash, Gary Stu is the male of Mary Sue, a character made to represent someone in an unrealistic and often fantasy way. Such as what you wish you were but cannot be. Anyone who would have Flash be their Gary Stu has a very very boring imagination, and if they aspire to be flash, they must have a shitty RL.
I’m pretty sure queen bee is still an accurate phrase to describe the cliché they were going for. What makes it a buzzword?
It’s saying that Sunset was a shallow villain that wanted power because yes.
Also, ‘queen bee’ is the typical high school cliche of a strong-willed popular girl who rules the school and has less strong willed people that follow her every move and do her evil bidding for her. Is a jerk to show her ‘power’ to her subordinates and usually dates the hottest guy in school.
Sounds fammiliar?
You people use that “queen bee” phrase as often as you use “Gary Stu” to describe Flash. Both are meaningless buzzwords you apply to situations you can’t properly analyze.
@atalarikt
It’s true. They did a great job of bringing all of what makes FIM good to bear in Equestria Girls.
@Background Pony #AB66
What is this comment even saying.
real villains are people who are harmed by others and wish to make them feel the pain, a villain who only wishes power and control is your average stereotypical villain who wants everything for the sake of “oh i want power cause it feels good”.
that is why i like starlight glimmer, even though she does want power she still put some philosophy behind it, she has ideals, sunset shimmer was your average everyfairytail villain that we have always seen.
Yeah, had she been a cliched character, I would dare to call Equestria Girls “the next High School Musical, just with magic and shit”. But no, the staff always know their characters shouldn’t be cliched.
Sorry, not feeling it. Sunset totally cared about being the boss of the school, just like your typical “queen bee” who enjoys power over the other students. No matter how you try to dress it up, it totally had a ‘popular queen bee keeps the school divided and new not-popular girl breaks the mold and makes a group of loser friends, they get everyone together and then she wins the ball while ending the queen bee’s reign over the school” vibe
Twilight had to beat her as princess of the ball she won every year for pony’s sake. Just because they threw some nonsensical magical stuff in there doesn’t change that.
Neither Sunset nor the stereotypical “popular girl” clichés you think she resembles are being accurately represented in your comment. The kinds of characters that care about popularity do so because it feeds their egos. But at the beginning of the first movie, NO ONE liked Sunset. They simply feared her. She had already abandoned the use of popularity as a means to her ends. She didn’t care one lick about the high school, other students, dances, popularity contests, or any of that. She had her sight set on Equestria and had a hypothetical way of getting it, making her an actual, real villain and a threat, not just a high-school level antagonist.
Sunset did care that she was popular, because that means power. That’s the reason EVERY high school meanie likes to be popular. Being popular means having power and influence over ‘inferior’ students. They often keep students ‘divided’ just like Sunset did, too.
Really, Sunset was a pretty boring high school cliche villain.
There were a few high-school tropes in play, but not necessarily clichés. A lot of people miss the fact that, for example, Sunset really didn’t care whether she was popular or not. Popularity was one means to power, intimidation was another, and the Element of Magic was yet another. Another thing is that there was no real romance drama, or “girls just talking about boys.” The closest the first movie ever got to that was Flash asking Twilight to the dance, and being sort-of-but-not-quite turned down. As for singing and dancing and the friendship shenanigans, that stuff is in the show itself, so it doesn’t really count. Really, both movies are a lot less shallow than their counterparts in other shows.
We won’t. That’s the beauty of it.