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@Dr. Eggman  
I hope so too or we are both going to be in a world we don’t want to be in. I will not live in a dictatorship and I will be damned if I don’t try to stop it from either side.

I’ve got no shame, qualms, or hesitation in saying I hate Nazis.
 
Old Nazis, new Nazis, neo Nazis, right Nazis, left Nazis, white Nazis, red Nazis, earth Nazis, or moon Nazis.
 
I hate everything they stand for, I hate everything they stood for. I hate how they drug my people’s name through the mud, I hate how they continue to do so.
 
I hate their flags, their blades, their shields. Their words, their cheers. I’d hate the ground they walked on if I didn’t have to tread it myself.
 
As a proud man of German heritage, as a proud man of Jewish heritage, as a proud American, and as a proud Southern. The son of vets themselves the children of vets. As a human being. I hate Nazis.

@Background Pony #55F7  
I’ve never seen an ANTIFA member say anything like that. They glorify any violent action their members take.

@Shirani
 
Apology accepted. Even though we disagree, I hope we can discuss these matters and try to understand each other better.

@Zincy  
I am now waiting for there to be a story about some trying to sneak into a white House meeting just on the off chance that he can say that the person was “Snoop PINGAS as usual.”

@Dr. Eggman  
I apologize for putting words in your mouth. However I am not sorry for being pissed that the world is going to shit!

@Zincy  
Yeah fucking tribute band bullshit, do wrong right or do no wrong at all,

@Dr. Eggman
 
I can’t not read your lines in Eggmans voice and this is distressing me.

@Shirani
 
Am I the mayor? No? Then why did you, just minutes ago, respond to me as if I said I wanted to forcibly shut them down, even though I never said anything of the sort?
 
You aren’t going to apologize or even acknowledge that earlier you said:  

 
Even though I never advocated this. I’m having a hard time being civil with you if you’re going to make easily-falsifiable claims about what I said and not even acknowledge that you were wrong when I call you out for it.
 
I mean, I’m not doing that to you. I haven’t made up arguments from you to argue against; I argue against the things you’re actually saying, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect the same out of you.

and with bullshit like this happening I am not surprised that our country is going to balkanize!  
for example…  
let’s play this out. So, you as a student go to class and you didn’t look your black professor in the eyes when answering a question (because that’s totally not creepy), so the black professor considers himself assaulted. Now, at this point if someone ‘assaults’ you, you are allowed to defend yourself. So, the professor walks up to the student and punches him in the face thus starting a ‘mutual combat’ situation. The professor beats the living shit out of this student… lets assume he’s white, and nobody gets out of their seats because the student ‘assaulted’ the professor first. Instead, the students all stare into the eyes of the professor as he mercilessly pounds the white student into a bloody pulp, then they continue to look the professor in the eyes as he walks away to the front of the class as the bloody mess that was once a person lays motionless upon the floor. He resumes teaching as the police are called for the ‘student’ assaulting the teacher. The student is then arrested and expelled from college while the professor is hailed as a hero for standing up to ’assault.’

If the Alt-Right can admit that some of their members can be just as violent and aggressive as some ANTIFA members, I think it might just help them a little bit.

@Thanotos Omega
 
If there is one thing worse than a terrorist, it’s an unoriginal one.
 
Blowing up a reserve bank in Oklahoma? I mean really.

@Shirani  
Maybe it’s the name? I mean, what with WWII fetishism and all, and if one is in a part of the world whose government was part of the Allied side and if one doesn’t view people as simply misguided, one might tend to look the other way, perhaps even subconsciously, you know, such as allying with the Soviet Union despite misgivings about their purges so they could win on the Eastern front? Alternatively, again if we give into a war sort of mentality, then one might ally themselves with the “lesser of two evils” from their standpoint if they are anti-communist, such as by joining the Waffen-SS or otherwise collaborate with the Axis side.
 

 
So, personally, myself, no, I don’t approve of violence either way. _{In fact, I’ve wept for Neo-Nazis, because I love them as human beings, even though I clearly don’t agree with their ideas.} However, I would say not to be surprised if one digs up World War II iconography that someone else won’t do the same.

@Zincy  
Kudos to the people who caught this son of a bitch,

I need to take a moment to appreciate the fact that someone named Dr Eggman is an anti fascist.
 
This thread seems more interesting than I originally expected.

@Dr. Eggman  
The mayor tried to shut them down even when they had a permit and the federal government told the local government to let them protest. 15 mins before the protest was to start the local government said “fuck it! shut it down!” even tho they were told not to!

@Background Pony #6D39  
anyone has the right to protest and rally. NO one has the right to infringe on those rights.

@Shirani
 
And where did I say anything about shutting them down? Again, stop putting words in my mouth please. Yuck.
 
Literally all I said was “This is an inherently violent ideology and we should condemn those who support it.” Looks like you agree, so there’s really no argument to be had, is there?

@Shirani
 
Nazism is inherently violent. They’re nazis, subscribing to the same belief and rhetoric that brought on one of the darkest points in human history. You don’t go around calling yourself a Nazi if you’re a well adjusted, safe, normal human being. When your manifesto involves mass murder or displacement, you are an inherently violent person.
 
 
There are certain ideologies that are utterly antithetical to the liberty, Nazism is one of those. Just as militant Islamist, anarchists, and gang/mob mentality sorts are antithetical to the current system.
 
 
Anyway, why I came to this wonderful place. 3%ter tries to blow up bank

@Shirani
 
There’s a great precedence to condemn far-right groups though, and I think you know why that is.
 
Because those groups (mistakenly) believe that Trump has their back, and thus feel emboldened by the president to act the way they do. Trump putting the hammer down on them and saying “No, I am not your friend, I am not in your corner, and I do not have your back” is an important statement to make to these people.
 
Leftist fringe groups have no delusions about the president being on their side, but far-right hate groups absolutely do; They’re “heiling” Trump as if he’s the second coming of Hitler himself, and I can’t blame Trump for wanting to clearly and unambiguously distance himself from these people.

@Shirani  
@Shirani  
So then, naturally, you’d be equally an apologist and supporter for any backlash to the white nationalism, like SJWs, Antifa, and BLM?
 
Cool - I can’t wait to see you acting as an apologist for those groups, standing up for their rights when someone, you know, drives a car into one of their peaceful protests.

I think anyone should be allowed to hold a rally so long as they have permission. Unless of course the people holding the rally are part of a Chaos cult or a Genestealer cult then they should all be burned ASAFP

@Dr. Eggman  
condemning them is fine but trying to shut them down will only embolden them.

@Dr. Eggman  
Also I noticed he didn’t condemn antifa. So if he condemned one why not the other?

@Shirani
 
Who said they “can’t hold rallies?” Please quote the part where I said they can’t hold rallies. Or… did you just put words in my mouth? I think you just did! Blech, those words taste terrible too! Ptooey!
 
They can hold rallies, and I never said otherwise. But I’m saying that we should call them out and condemn them for it. Do you disagree?