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Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 27275

Background Pony #BECD
@DerpyFast
I’ve always had mixed feelings about the pegasi controlling the weather.
It’s not just the pegasi; there are others - gryphons and cloud gremlins - who also manipulate weather at the same time it had been known that unicorns were able to control the weather with their spells as seen in MYM Ch. 3. The weather over Everfree was unusual in that it moves by itself, but the explanation may lie in the mysterious magical accumulation that was there in G4. In the rest of the world, it has been noticed that there is very weak wind strength at higher altitudes and that turbulent weather mostly occurs at lower altitudes.
The magical world, Equus, is static - meaning that this planet is stationary in very stark contrast to our own world. When I read a manga, Hoshi o Tsugu Mono, where the story was written by the science fiction author James P. Hogan, it emerged that the moon had acted as a “brake” on Earth from 50,000 years ago. According to Hogan, absence on the moon had resulted in faster rotation - instead of 24 hours, it would be 8 hours. It makes anyone 10% lighter - think of the huge dinosaurs - and much denser atmosphere with extreme wind force - Hogan’s Earth would be a windswept world with wind force up to 300 km/h.
MLP’s Earth - which is called Equus by the fans - is the exact opposite, almost no wind is generated by a rotation that is completely absent, so that it is only at the lower altitudes that climatic activity could occur, such as hurricanes, rain, gusts - and all this would be within reach of flying beings like the pegasi, who could probably reach 5,000 m altitude without much difficulty. The airships in G4 constantly moved several thousand meters above the ground, but not higher - because it becomes so much colder and more difficult, the wind can be calmed at higher altitudes. Perhaps aircraft with lift based on drag is not realistic at higher altitudes. (Perhaps why Price had “planes” with pegasi mounted under wings)
Local climatic variations can be extreme in such a world, from extreme desert heat to intense cold - the many mountains, valleys, steppes and so much else will mean a great diversity of different weather that moves with light winds. A new force that generates climate was needed - and then magic is the only answer. Magic can create “heat” and “cold”, and can thus leave its mark on the surroundings by influencing the local weather and plant growth.
This could not have been overlooked by the intelligent beings who learned how to use magic. They started small by manipulating weather elements, not least to be able to expand beyond the countries where they need sun, rain and shelter. In some of the areas it could be too dry, elsewhere too wet. The pegasi and the unicorns understood that if they were to spread out - they had to be able to control the local weather in order to survive and establish their own communities. Others had understood the same, the zebras with their special magic collaborated with the abadas and the kelpies for example.
Weather control is thus essential for civilization development, and the pegasi were unique throughout the world with their skills surpassing the presentations of others. It made them sought after as allies - and feared as enemies. It can also explain why airships and balloons were important means of transport, these could have taken advantage of the climatic conditions, not least by moving in the “layer” between the upper, windless atmosphere and the lower, turbulent atmosphere with constant winds in predictable directions . If lower, extra power like a pegasus pushing is needed - if higher, advanced magic spells are needed.
Equus was not a static world in the beginning anyway, there had to have been a natural disaster to make this possible. And I’m not thinking about Discord, because that might have happened long before his time. Or it was just created like that by mysterious divine beings.

Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 27274

Wiimeiser
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
Twinkling Balloon - Took part in the 2021 community collab.
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2020) - Took part in the 2020 Community Collab
Dream Come True! - Participated in the MLP 9th Anniversary Event
Wallet After Summer Sale -
A Tale For The Ages - Celebrated MLP's 35th Anniversary and FiM's 8th Anniversary

(Foil Hat)
I wonder if the comic will even fully conclude? This definitely seems like a 4-issue arc…
I think I missed the part where Misty got good at building things, but I think it’s a welcome direction for her.
Probably a scrapped SoS/TYT episode

Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 27273

DerpyFast
Pixel Perfection - Hot Pockets Spotted
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
Non-Fungible Trixie -
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2018) - Celebrated Derpibooru's six year anniversary with friends.

So I read The Storm of Zephyr Heights Issue 2.
This further supports my view that they don’t just go “Remember this?”. They don’t bring up things from G4 until they have a proper, complete story to tell about it. Which is a welcome change, given how many unresolved plots G4 had by the end.
I’ve always had mixed feelings about the pegasi controlling the weather. On the one hand, it’s kind of silly and struggled to be a consistent source of stories. But when they actually do something with it, the results are consistently great. I love the implication that pegasi had computers before Equestria’s collapse, which explains why Zephyr Heights is so much more technologically advanced.
Another thing I like is that “magic returned” continues to have an effect on the world years after ANG. It shouldn’t be surprising that the immediate reality of magic returning and dealing with Opaline took priority over something Zipp considered to just be a legend.
I think I missed the part where Misty got good at building things, but I think it’s a welcome direction for her.
Overall, I’m really enjoying this comic.

Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 27272

CloudMistDragon
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Artist -

Misty Shadow
@Dustcan
I’ll laugh if the channel’s banner still says “new episodes bi-weekly” at the end of the year. Wonder when they’re going to get off their butts and change that while making the videos that are still unavailable public.

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Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 27269

Background Pony #BECD
So new comic issue’s out. The plot thickens. Some highlights for those interested:
-I was just expecting RD but instead they gave us the whole cavalry. RD herself, Bulk Biceps, Somnambula, Flash Magnus, Spitfire and the Wonderbolts, and finally fan favourite….. Derpy Hooves!!
-So yeah, Sunny does have knowledge of g4’s time. Up until the S6 finale. Nothing else after that did she about.
-Zipp’s sudden lack of interest in the old era in-universe is because she didn’t want to be disappointed when she finally does discover it. Unfortunately as she sadly anticipated, it’s now a ghost town.
-Speaking of which, it’s now populated by many cloud eggs which hatched a winged, quill firing hedgehog. How long were they there?
-During Flash Magnus’ time in what would be Twilight’s era, they’ve already made computers. Wonder who sponsored them? Also side note, assuming the synopsises we knew are now outdated, apparently this “fan favourite” is none other….than Flash Magnus. Sorry bud, but you’re not everyone’s favourite. But we’re all glad you’re here anyway.
-Assuming it’s not an oversight even coming from Andy Price, Izzy has learned clone-jutsu!
-As usual with works by Andy Price, we’ve got cameos of Rosie the Riveter, Fred and Wilma Flintstone.
So yeah, with that, I’m just eagerly awaiting the final conclusion to this tale.
The first part of the comic has been let down by the poor quality even though the story is very good - which emphasized the problem with IDW, because there is far too great a difference between comic artists in quality and style. It would have been far more amazing if Andy Price had also taken it, or one of the good G4 artists.
So Zipp found a secret in the airship hangar and had it moved to a hangar building, to save these who couldn’t take refuge? Kind of weird that G5 ponies didn’t know about airships or flying vehicles and had to go on a crash course… literally.
Price has a rather poorly hidden secret, he is perhaps the most American-influenced comic artist in the world, as he loved to Americanize everyone he portrays, and shamelessly uses cameos and references to American entertainment such as the Flintstones - that’s his “brand” which makes his work very entertaining.
The second part of the comic is very interesting. And; Raindow Dash is expected to appear at the end of the arc, not midway through. There is something wrong with Flash Magnus, it seems that it is not him in the holography, but a digital clone. Because he’s not that… formal. As one of the heroes in the pegasi history, it may be natural to use him as a guide, because the holograph came from an “information deck”.
Such advanced technology is not found in S9, G4. A voice-controlled computer with a holographic display - even we would have been impressed by this - it is safe to speculate whether Twilight had smuggled technology from the pony-human Earth, but even that would have taken time. For the computer to function after a very unusually long time, possibly with magic instead of electricity. It reacted as soon as a pegasi got close enough.
We know how sluggish the ponies’ technological development is; when Celestia and Luna defeated Discord and resurrected Equestria they were by our standards in the Middle Ages, technologically in the 14th century, when Discord was unleashed, technology had reached the 1800-1920 period. The computer technology in Cloudsdale is something we would have developed in a decade or two, so it is in the 2030-2040 period. Logically, that would mean many centuries.
The state of Canterlot is not a little strange, I was expecting ruins - but dead magic is very impressively tough. “Dead” means that the magic did not come from living beings, and cannot be nullified or stolen as Tirek explained. So the pegasi had learned how to make their magic transfer these into clouds and solid material “death”, so they didn’t have to worry about these disappearing by themselves. We have learned that there is a difference between “living” magic that the Unity Crystals control - and “dead” magic that slips into the magical background of a magical world.
This then produces a possible scenario; even if Cloudsdale were to remain intact - the pegasi couldn’t stay there if they lost their magic and would then fall straight through the clouds. No wonder Sunny said; “- looks like everypony left in a hurry”.
High up in the atmosphere where it didn’t rain in a static world without global wind, things could be preserved for a very long time. Equus/Pony Earth is a static world that does not move, so that the atmosphere at higher altitudes will become completely stagnant, so that only local climatic phenomena can occur at much lower altitudes. This surprised both Zipp and Pipp, who did not expect a ghost town that seemed to have been abandoned yesterday.
We know there are automatic weather factories that may have taken over the weather factory in Cloudsdale’s role, which then means that the reactivity of the old machine will affect the entire world by upsetting the delicate balance. And if Cloudsdale crashes with Zephyr Heights - because it’s attracted to something - it could have serious repercussions. Zipp must therefore turn off the function.
It just doesn’t explain why the weather factory was turned on, or why Cloudsdale is drawn to Zephyr Heights. I personally think it is due to the many living pegasi who have active magic. It’s a conundrum - one that Zipp will face face to face. Because we now know from the G5 “bible” that Rainbow Dash is the founder of Zephyr Heights - and the weather factory - the pride of the pegasi - could be a natural place for her statue.
Rainbow Dash’s cutie mark in the first issue suggests that is where the drama will end.
So on to the story; according to the digital Flash Magnus, there were seven “great cities of Pegasi”. This is interesting, and it may have happened after the founding of Equestria because the pegasi had to migrate from their original home, which was up in the mountains. Then it can be said that these founded seven cities - and we know of at least a couple; Timbuktu in the G4 IDW comics and Las Pegasus in the G4 TV series. There must have been seven pegasi realms in Equestria in the pre-royal sisters era, and they were the “great” of all pegasi societies. I get a good idea of ​​the pegasi’s militaristic nature, they probably fought each other and only cooperated against external enemies. Cloudsdale may have been the rallying point for all pegasi to come together in a common realm.
The pegasi were savages in the past, both before the great frost created by the windigos and during the beginning of Equestria, because if they live so high up in the hills, mountain ranges, aeries they will have little food within range. They therefore had to go far, often in dangerous circumstances, to find and gather food to take home. And they will of course come into conflict with other flying beings, especially gryphons who we know had an intensive past with the pegasi. It would not be surprising if they were robbers and pillagers - the first sky pirates in history - for them military organization and fighting means a survival strategy. This made them valuable allies for unicorns and earth ponies, who could provide them with valuables and food in exchange for protection.
When Equestria was founded, the three rulers chose a feudal model so that there were many realms that eventually began to merge, the old Equestria before Discord’s assault was a federation. Celestia and Luna centralize Equestria, among other things by forcing the unicorn aristocracy to Canterlot, where Cloudsdale then stayed close to. Possibly to balance the militaristic pegasi against the magical scholar unicorns. The royal sisters - then Celestia - “tamed” the pegasi, which in Flash Magnus’ time were quite independent.
And Cloudsdale was instrumental in the pacification of the pegasi, by giving them a peaceful source of pride - weather manipulation that they had developed into a work of art - which had already motivated the seven cities to band together and create a monument. In G4 it was seen that weather control was their pride and mission. It must have taken several centuries before the pegasi could become so peaceful that they could leave their work to the automatic weather factories - and then the weather factory in Cloudsdale could have become a museum.
Now Zipp is on her way to the pegasi’s pride and masterpiece, and she has already “met” two of the pegasi heroes.

Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 27268

CloudMistDragon
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Artist -

Misty Shadow
I guess it suits the spirit of Halloween that we’re all feeling a phantom pain today from no TYT!
Sorry for the bad comedy, it just helps me feel a little better getting used to these awful new circumstances.

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Crackpot Quackpot
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Preenhub - We all know what you were up to this evening~
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
Wallet After Summer Sale -

Jackpot
So new comic issue’s out. The plot thickens. Some highlights for those interested:
-I was just expecting RD but instead they gave us the whole cavalry. RD herself, Bulk Biceps, Somnambula, Flash Magnus, Spitfire and the Wonderbolts, and finally fan favourite….. Derpy Hooves!!
-So yeah, Sunny does have knowledge of g4’s time. Up until the S6 finale. Nothing else after that did she about.
-Zipp’s sudden lack of interest in the old era in-universe is because she didn’t want to be disappointed when she finally does discover it. Unfortunately as she sadly anticipated, it’s now a ghost town.
-Speaking of which, it’s now populated by many cloud eggs which hatched a winged, quill firing hedgehog. How long were they there?
-During Flash Magnus’ time in what would be Twilight’s era, they’ve already made computers. Wonder who sponsored them? Also side note, assuming the synopsises we knew are now outdated, apparently this “fan favourite” is none other….than Flash Magnus. Sorry bud, but you’re not everyone’s favourite. But we’re all glad you’re here anyway.
-Assuming it’s not an oversight even coming from Andy Price, Izzy has learned clone-jutsu!
-As usual with works by Andy Price, we’ve got cameos of Rosie the Riveter, Fred and Wilma Flintstone.
So yeah, with that, I’m just eagerly awaiting the final conclusion to this tale.

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Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 27260

Midnox

Yeah, the G5 show bible uses “she” and “her” in reference to Zipp. I think Zipp being nonbinary was a concept someone presented that was nixed by Hasbro, or at least that’s how I remember reading that screenshotted comment.
Back when we were concerned for the inclusivity and stuff shortly before ANG released?

Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 27259

Background Pony #12BE
@Icicle Niceicle 1517
@PuffyDearlySmith
Non-binary people can use she/her pronouns. But unfortunately, we still live in a world where creators have to push for representation in children’s shows, like Rebecca Sugar or Dana Terrace (The Owl House) did. Companies don’t want to touch anything that could be controversial.
All they could be allowed to do is imply it, like many queer characters in the past. As it is, Zipp is clearly gender non-conforming, and rather androgynous, so much that common google searches are “is Zipp Storm a boy or a girl?”. I think it’s really cool, though.

Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 27258

Background Pony #558F
Would Opaline have been better if she were written to be a pony version of Kefka?

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Crackpot Quackpot
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Preenhub - We all know what you were up to this evening~
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
Wallet After Summer Sale -

Jackpot
@Icicle Niceicle 1517
Yes. And prior to double checking the tags, I thought she was the spawn of Trix and Twi, not to mention her first picture was very recent. My initial impressions was that she came after G5’s demise. To rub on it. Again, I’m probably just overthinking and that it’s most likely just a coincidence.

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PuffyDearlySmith
Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Aria Blaze - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
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The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Fan of both G4 and G5
Yeah, the G5 show bible uses “she” and “her” in reference to Zipp. I think Zipp being nonbinary was a concept someone presented that was nixed by Hasbro, or at least that’s how I remember reading that screenshotted comment.

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northern haste
Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Sonata Dusk - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Cool Crow - "Caw!" An awesome tagger

Enter if you dare
@CloudMistDragon
Awesome he could just be wrong.
Even if he doesn’t have a history of being wrong misunderstandings happen.
This is something that needs an actual source. There was red tape for sunset shimmer being by sexual But members of staff told us on twitter

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