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#AE77 is me, got kicked out by DB’s cookies very short expiration time

Allowed myself to quickly sketch this , to better put together what I had in mind, uhhh you’re allowed to not like it if you don’t want, it’s only some food for thoughs really

@Ooredelen123  
The back looks great now! The little crease on top of the butt always add its dose of appeal…
 
The front arms still look a bit thick at the front. Can you try to remove a bit of it, like in the drawing? Torso should be a bit more visible from the side.
 
Head looks a bit better, but face is still a bit flat IMO. This is where you’ll have the more work, I think, faces always are so demanding…
 
Also try to make her head without the ears, and then add them as a separate mesh, if you can. I usually do them separately in my arts (as in >>1557695 ), but it really looks like this in reality ; ears almost looks like detachable on most animals, and not as fused with the head as it looks on your model.

@d1ckbitch  
Does it look better now? (No wings and part of mane for a better view)  
Changed the shape of head a little, rounded eyes shape, added eyelashes, inflated her butt a bit and added some creases in the limbs connection places

@Ooredelen123  
Limbs seems completely fused to the body on your model, continuous curves with the torso and the belly, whereas there should be some line break at the joints. Take a look at, say, >>2364588 for example

@d1ckbitch  
Thanks for the tips! I’ll try to alter the model a bit. Although I didn’t really get what you mean in the part about “attached limbs”

@Ooredelen123  
Thanks for the renders. A few things could be said about the body (inverting the belly’s bottom curve would probably look better, the limbs looks a bit too “attached” to the body, will do a Red Line proposal later), but yeah, the head seems to have issues too. Curve between the tip of the nose and the forehead should probably be less… curvy (implying pulling forward the nose a bit), and the eyes curve near the nasal blade should also be smoothed a bit, making the shape of the eyes closer of that of an almond. Also ears seems a bit too pointy.
 
Also don’t bother with eyebrows unless the expression really needs it, or make it really thin and subtle, eyebrows really need to be used with care on horses…
 
All I wrote above are only personnal opinions ofc, need to be taken with a grain of salt.
 
Try to experiment on a rough drawing of your model before editing the mesh, it may save you a lot of time

@d1ckbitch  
Here’s two renders of fluttershy  
Yeah, I can see that something is off but I can’t figure out what

@Ooredelen123  
Can we have a look at the model in its non-animated (or a standard, standing-up) pose, with a neutral expression? A well-done model will usually look appealing to people even in a turntable picture without anything happening. And then, a picture using the said well-done model can be ruined by an awkward facial expression or distorded pose, hehe.
 
However, if the model fails to catch people’s heart when doing nothing more than existing, even great expressions and awesome ideas for a situation will likely fail to save the picture. We need to find the source of your problem, at which step it actually begins.

@dinosaurcol  
Thanks, blueprints are good idea
 
@d1ckbitch  
Thanks for pointing another details  
I know about eyelashes, but I couldn’t implement them because of technical issue. Seems like I need to try again.  
Also in >>2294387 I used the first version of my model, I modified proportions to look more sfm-like. My current model version starts from >>2318049

@Ooredelen123  
Just noticed almost all of the pictures before the one you mentionned have the catchlights, haha. Sorry for focusing of this particular detail.
 
Were you using your own models on… >>2234687 , for example? The ones used in this video actually really looks like the characters of the show, except it’s in 3D. >>2294387 looks more like an interpretation of the characters, and this may, as much as it may not, catch the audience’s attention.
 
Just realized another thing… Where are the eyeleashes?
 
No eyeleashes means male character, by convention… It more or less worked for pre-2294387 pictures, but somehow became more noticeable after this one. Adding them back could help too. You may also be hitting the Eyebrows Problem; eyebrows seems to be invisible most of the time in the show, except for a few specific facial expressions.
 
First trying to get closer to the show’s chara-design while keeping the 3D may help you knowing better what people want, and from there, you could try to add your own design, one piece at a time ~
 
 
@dinosaurcol  
It doesn’t looks like a situation of dislike of work from the community here (scores would most certainly be negative in this case…), more like an issue with pictures’s appeal potentiel

@Ooredelen123
 
try to do blueprints side and front, change a little the proportions of canon, (you can a little)
 
aslo do not deseperate, there are 3 factors determine someone dislike an artwork
 
the style or technique is a shit ^{example my first upload}
 
what you “paint” is against the beliefs of an user ^{may the bikini armor being disgusting to SJW}
 
Your work touches a sensitive strand ^{Mah last work}
 
try to do a better work

@d1ckbitch  
Thanks for explanation!  
Yeah, I know that human genitals are not very popular here. My concern is that I used to have better score with almost the same genitals and even worse lightning

The recipe for upvotes is a complex one, it’s a fact; NSFW is a well-known and efficient factor, but it need to work in conjunction with the picture’s other qualities, it’s hard to make it work alone.
 
I like >>2313981 , it has a great lighting and the idea is interesting, well-done, and quite hot TBH. Could’ve used some catchlights, greasy reflections on the apple, and as said above, human genitals may not catch the most interest among horse porn amateurs. It’s personnal taste, of course; but high scores are about satisfying as many people’s personnal taste as possible.
 
But most pictures after 2294387, except this one, seems to have a rather bland and somewhat dark lighting to me, making them harder to enjoy. Could be a point of improvement… But this artist too is using custom horse models, and honestly, more than a few people are disagreeing with the Arareroll faces, but it seems to work well overall. Could be some interesting notions to learn from Clopician’s work, about lighting, situations etc
 
Spotted another thing mostly visible in >>2308217 , but present in all pictures : their butts seems to be really small, especially compared with the size of the head. May need more thicc, there’s even some kind of trend for that on human beings now

So, new question - what’s wrong with images after >>2294387 ?  
I used to get at least 100 score in about 7-8 hours. Now I barely get 70 score in couple days. I tried to figure out what I’m doing wrong, but no matter what I try nothing changes. I made pics without face and eyes in them or without genitals, but everything is the same.  
I mean even my very first shitty made artwork got 100+ score in one night.  
I want to know what’s wrong, I want to improve

Eyes may need more catchlights. That’s the bright reflection spots appearing on the wet surface of the cornea; missing them may make the eyes appear empty and not really life-like.
 
Taking care of the eyes is really important when doing art, it’s the main channel for communicating empathy between the viewer and some fictionnal character, and the error marging is really thin on that.

@Ooredelen123  
specially the face, is not necessary use the canon proportions, play with that make a sketch of that, try to put the the 2 eyes in a distance of an eye (more o less)  
LIke that:
 
OOOOO
 
OO||WOO||

@dinosaurcol  
Yeah, I figured it out  
Guess I got used to such proportions while I was making the model. I wanted to make something different from the default sfm model, so I choosed stylish blueprint. Didn’t really work out

That counts as dead topic?, idk  
The problem with this post are the proportions, there are many blueprints of ponies on your favorite search engine

@CrystalightRocket  
Problem is that all my previous images were in the same style and still got minimum 80 score. But in this I’ve got the smallest score, so I assume that something is wrong

@Ooredelen123
 
As I said earlier, most people just downvote on a whim coz they don’t like some specific details, theme, general style, or they just don’t know how to set up a custom derpi filter.
 
in case of the linked pic (btw, add “>>” before image number to make a link), I guess downvoters don’t like human vulva on pony, cum, excessively contrast blush or a general 3d style.
 
you have more upvotes than downvotes on this pic, so just don’t bother.  
what’s important, is that you yourself like your final result or not, that’s what matters.

I posted this (https://derpibooru.org/images/2294387) a couple of days ago, but got very low score here and even negative score on other sites. I really don’t know what’s wrong with the image, please tell me