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CaptainXtra 
STOP PROJECT 2025!
@แถใาใฉ ไนใฅๅๅา
As long as Pistols continue to exist, Submachine Guns will too.
As long as Pistols continue to exist, Submachine Guns will too.
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3413
แถใาใฉ ไนใฅๅๅา 
Zamasu
@RD4590
As far as I know, they are. 9mm ammo is cheap and plentiful, after all.
As far as I know, they are. 9mm ammo is cheap and plentiful, after all.
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3411
Background Pony #5252
@CaptainXtra
I believe machine pistols are just regular pistols with auto functionality (often with optionally attached or folded stock). SMGs are purpose-designed for auto fire and have a stock (even though it may be foldable/collapsible). They often have a front grip, handguard, or other area meant to be gripped with support hand. Usually also the magazine well is positioned forward of the grip, though not always. Their sights are usually bigger and better for precise aiming at distances above 50 meters.
I believe machine pistols are just regular pistols with auto functionality (often with optionally attached or folded stock). SMGs are purpose-designed for auto fire and have a stock (even though it may be foldable/collapsible). They often have a front grip, handguard, or other area meant to be gripped with support hand. Usually also the magazine well is positioned forward of the grip, though not always. Their sights are usually bigger and better for precise aiming at distances above 50 meters.
I just looked at Wikipedia and it also mentions the distinction may be blurred for some guns: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_pistol#Comparison_with_compact_submachine_guns
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3410
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@CaptainXtra
Performance.
Performance.
SMGs ultimately have better accuracy at longer range and less likely to malfunction in full-auto.
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3409
CaptainXtra
STOP PROJECT 2025!
SMGโs and Auto-Pistols are differentiated by the presence of what exactly?
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3406
RD4590 
Vortex Clipper
There is also the flash suppressor, which mainly reduces muzzle flame and can be confused with muzzle brake.
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3405
RD4590
Vortex Clipper
@synthfen
Did a bit of lookaround. In English context, โsilencerโ and โsuppressorโ both refer to sound-reducing muzzle device. The recoil compensator is called โmuzzle brakeโ.
But in Chinese language, โsuppressorโ is often referred to as muzzle brake so I got confused as well.
Did a bit of lookaround. In English context, โsilencerโ and โsuppressorโ both refer to sound-reducing muzzle device. The recoil compensator is called โmuzzle brakeโ.
But in Chinese language, โsuppressorโ is often referred to as muzzle brake so I got confused as well.
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3404
synthfen
Lyra Heartstrings Luvr!
Hey, I donโt know if this question should goes here, but does anyone know if the silver thing on Anton Chigurhโs Remington 1187 is a silencer or suppressor? *I am still new to guns!*
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3403
RD4590
Because of the diversity of terrain, there are many places in the world where tanks and armed vehicles cannot reach, and where calvaries can still be useful, at least in patrol.
Hereโs a PLA calvary lieutenant with a 95 Carbine.
Vortex Clipper
Because of the diversity of terrain, there are many places in the world where tanks and armed vehicles cannot reach, and where calvaries can still be useful, at least in patrol.
Hereโs a PLA calvary lieutenant with a 95 Carbine.
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3402
RD4590
Vortex Clipper
To not mention that the ones supposed to use these kind of weaponry are, as far as I read; Kim Jong Unโs personal guards and special forces, both of which seem really bad to have a jam in the first place.But at least it seems decently workable. Iโm not sure if the same can be said about their โAnti Tank Grenade Launcher/AT Rifleโ:
Rifle grenade appeared in WW1, pioneered by the Brits. Then in WW2 the Japs used it in large scale. And now Japs are also using it as an anti-tank weapon.
The concept became obsolete when RPG and M72 LAW came out. They are easier to load. And if you have to fire grenade with a rifle, there are under-barrel grenade launchers like the M203.
The concept became obsolete when RPG and M72 LAW came out. They are easier to load. And if you have to fire grenade with a rifle, there are under-barrel grenade launchers like the M203.
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3401
RD4590
Vortex Clipper
As in, penetrate the armor, set s fuze and explode insideWikipedia article I linked has an explanation: the shells measure travelled distance by counting their rotations and explode when reaching the desired distance. They donโt directly sense the obstacles.
That is ingenius. And in modern warfare, the sniper may be guided by drones or radar to point at the target direction. And the rifle automatically programs the shell with information provided by radar/drones/satellite via the command center server. This particular project may not succeed bur smart firearms are now becoming a thing.
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3400
Background Pony #AA1F
As in, penetrate the armor, set s fuze and explode insideTo fire through cover, you would need a much bigger gun.how youโd fire at a enemy in cover without the system accidentally picking a tree or a wall and exploding prematurelyWikipedia article I linked has an explanation: the shells measure travelled distance by counting their rotations and explode when reaching the desired distance. They donโt directly sense the obstacles.
OH
Iโm so sorry my man I beg your pardon, I didnโt open your page and immediately assumed you were talking about the Barrett XM109 or the XM307 Advanced Crew Served Weapon (ACSW). Iโm so sorry man, I admit I was at fault, didnโt open the Wikipedia link Dx
Yep, the Denel Systems would be the Neopup (cute name) PAW-20, I think, unless you mean the Denel NTW-20
Neopup PAW-20
Denel NTW-20
Neopup PAW-20
Denel NTW-20
The Ukrainians are also developing the RGSh-30 grenade launcher
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3399
Background Pony #5252
As in, penetrate the armor, set s fuze and explode inside
To fire through cover, you would need a much bigger gun.
how youโd fire at a enemy in cover without the system accidentally picking a tree or a wall and exploding prematurely
Wikipedia article I linked has an explanation: the shells measure travelled distance by counting their rotations and explode when reaching the desired distance. They donโt directly sense the obstacles.
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3398
Background Pony #AA1F
Wouldnโt something like old tank shells work?
As in, penetrate the armor, set s fuze and explode inside
So instead of firing above the cover, you fire the cover so it sets the fuze off
Otherwise I wouldnโt know how youโd fire at a enemy in cover without the system accidentally picking a tree or a wall and exploding prematurely, instead of detecting the sandbags deep in the alleyway
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3397
Background Pony #5252
And grenade has a large blast radius anyway.
The point is that you donโt have to wait for the enemy to peek or otherwise become visible. The enemy canโt just hide from you behind cover, they have to run away outside your range of fire.
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3396
RD4590
Vortex Clipper
@Background Pony #5252
That sounds cool, but also sounds unpractical. The shooter would need to choose the target to detonate before they shoot, which takes time. And grenade has a large blast radius anyway.
That sounds cool, but also sounds unpractical. The shooter would need to choose the target to detonate before they shoot, which takes time. And grenade has a large blast radius anyway.
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3395
Background Pony #5252
@CaptainXtra
Itโs basically a more precise grenade launcher, so at a distance you can still target individual enemies or targets like trenches or windows, instead of just being able to hit an area where the enemies are.
Itโs basically a more precise grenade launcher, so at a distance you can still target individual enemies or targets like trenches or windows, instead of just being able to hit an area where the enemies are.
US had a cooler idea - the XM25 - where the grenades were programmable, so they could explode after passing near an obstacle to hit enemies behind that obstacle. It had issues though and funding was cut.
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3392
CaptainXtra
STOP PROJECT 2025!
@RD4590
What would justify the use of this?
What would justify the use of this?
Which situation would require both a Sniper Rifle and Grenade Launcher to be simultaneously needed in the same weapon?
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3391
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Pomegranates :P
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Correction: There appears to be two others that tested the concept.
American Barret and South African Denel systems
Correction: There appears to be two others that tested the concept.
American Barret and South African Denel systems
Generals » Gun Discussion » Post 3390
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Pomegranates :P
Yes, itโs Chinese. And no, there doesnโt appear to be any equivilent of the concept in other military.
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