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There is discontent about the degree of seriousness and danger between the two examples.
A Trixie without an amulet is far less of a threat,
even if she might still be a ‘bad-influence bitch’ (as far as Twilight knows).
That and there’s the debate about how reformed Trixie really was at end of ‘Magic Duel’.
I’m in the ‘that barely counted at all’ camp, and consider this episode her proper reform.
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Because it’s clearly made to make people mad, not to bring in any civil discussion.
I read that as “It wasn’t intended to be that way, but it’s a valid interpretation”.
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Arguably, she did.
Trixie NEVER ATTEMPTED SUICIDE.
You. I like you.
@toxicitzi
Ouch, yeah, just give me another reason to be disappointed in an episode that was so close to being excellent.
You’re basically agreeing that there could have been many ways she could have learned about the amulet, but then enforcing your position on others. You can stand by your point all you like, but unless the show itself or the show staff come out and directly confirm it, your point is and will remain to be headcanon. It’s neither right, nor wrong.
That’s the point I’m trying to make. We don’t know how or why Trixie learned of the amulet, we don’t know what her plan was when she bought it or how far she interned to take any quest for revenge, and judging her by theories that we invent ourselves is honestly very silly.
As you said, it’s open to interpretation, and unless a particular interpretation contradicts what is demonstrated and what we know about the show, it’s just as valid as any other.
Consider me done then. Not like it was going anywhere anyway.
buddy, pagan, guay, fwend, if you don’t care, then don’t bother.
arguing is just going to make things worse
@GUILLE832
all I’ll say is this, you got this episode to show Trixie is not some psycho criminal, No Second Prances, as well as that apology at the end of Magic Duel to back up a legitimate claim of hers, you see, individuals exposed to great power end up being unable to let go of the influence that is that great power, where as people scared of that great power they had because of what they do with it, stay far, far away from that source..
I think this last episode with Trixie sealed the case about her actions in Magic Duel. it started off with an unnecessary throwback to a resolved rivalry, which it only used it to re-resolve it over again. it’s a pretty pointless episode if you ask me, but one that at least attempted a few good ideas, so it’s pretty good, depending on how you look at it. I’d say it was pretty good. just misguided in a few places.
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Maybe you should learn to read, she said she never intended to hurt anyone, she never mentions nor is she told exactly why the amulet is dangerous, she didn’t immediately attack Twilight upon coming to ponyville, these are all things that happened none of the assumptions you made did.
you’re a terrible liar.
Except I’m not everything I have explained to you happened in the episode you can watch the episode again and see.
Buddy you have no idea how wrong you are and how little I care, I already said I don’t care if you hate Trixie so disagreeing isn’t the issue it’s that you keep making things up and assuming things you have no way of knowing as if they are completely true and saying I’m the one who is immature? You really shouldn’t throw stones in glass houses.
Well, the shows does give us enough room for interpretation for these ideas to come out, which is something I really like.
Well, I´m gonna take a wild guess ans suppose that shopkeepers usually learn about their inventory. And yeah, selling that was pretty shady and kinda retarded. You put it on display and say that it´s not for sale until someone pays up a literal bag full of gold? That guy is either stupid or a really cunning salesman. Again, that guy sold a weapon that will hurt a lot of people if used. It´s basically illegal gun trafficking. And in this type of exchanges, both the guy who sell the gun and the guy who buys it are equally guilty, so there goes that.
Yes, that is also a likely possibility and extremely plausible, but I´m coming from the fact that the only source of knowledge we ever got about the amulet was in a book. Hence, an argument that relies in canon. It could have perfectly happened as you are saying, it might even be confirmed to have happened like that in the future, but taking in account all we were shown I still stand by my point that Trixie read about it and was aware of what she was buying.
First off, use punctuation. It makes understanding what you are saying much easier.
Well, if there´s more proof I´d love to hear it.
I´m not saying she´s a straight up irredeemable psychopath. Now you´re putting words in my mouth. I´m justifying that Twilight distrusted her and proving why she´s not just misunderstood or that her actions can be excused because they were caused by an external force. I´m stating that she can be malicious and even evil and that Twilight had all the right to doubt Trixie´s intentions around Starlight.
Also, try not throw your arms and say that a person who doesn´t agree with you is too thick to comprehend your oh so clear and obvious perspective in future discussions. It´s pretty immature.
I never said she just figured it after buying stop putting words in my mouth she did SOME research we know she knew it granted power that’s it that’s all we know anything else is assumption and the events of the episode show she didn’t know she said she didn’t mean for this to happen there is more proof that she didn’t know than there is that she did.
Your comparison of her to tirek is ridiculous and your clearly biased towards her character saying things like she’s a psychopath and doesn’t care about hurting others which we know is false the episode showed she did care you’re letting your emotional opinions cloud any reason or proper judgement you can make and because of this it’s not even worth arguing with you because you lack any introspection and therefore can only see your own point of view.
Actually it isn’t an assumption. It’s just an idea. I’m not assuming that’s definitely what happened, I’m putting it forward as an alternative possibility.
As for your argument about “nobody” knowing about the amulet… The shopkeeper knew about it. He knew enough to warn Trixie that it was dangerous, and he knew what it was called. But he left it out on display, and was willing to sell the thing.
Now here’s another possibility, what if Trixie learned about the amulet from somebody who had seen it in the shop? Again, I’m not claiming that’s what happened, I’m just pointing out there are other ways for her to learn about it, that don’t necessitate her knowing all the effects of it.
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It’s equally as possible that Trixie learned about the amulet from an ancient or incomplete source that detailed how it increased power, but failed to mention the corruption.
You know, that´s another assumption.
For the rest of my argument, feel free to read once more my comment to Pagan.
She didn´t know what it would do?
So, I´m assuming you believe she went to that store, purchased a pretty necklace, realized it increased her magical abilities and then decided to take revenge against Twilight?
Jesus Christ, is that dumb. I´m not making headcanons up.
Let me put it this way.
In the show, you know, canon, we read about the Alicorn amulet. It´s specifies how it increases the user´s power and also turns them evil. Now, where would have Trixie learned of the amulet if it weren´t somehwere written? Nobody, not even Twilight knew about it. It´s easy to assume that´s some obscure shit. All the information he have about that thing comes from that hidden book. So I´m connecting the dots and saying that Trixie read on the subject to know of its existence and what it could do, both good and bad. Please, do point out what´s wrong with my reasoning.
And now you´re making headcanons about the Amulet taking time to erease its influence. We´re never confirmed this, for all we know Trixie was so caught up that even without its maleficent influence she was still a psycho. That´s another headcanon because we´re never given something to prove it otherwise. So in this regard both of us can be wrong. However, don´t accuse me of using headcanons when you are doing the same.
You’re making assumptions. It’s equally as possible that Trixie learned about the amulet from an ancient or incomplete source that detailed how it increased power, but failed to mention the corruption.
Point is, we don’t know how much Trixie knew about the amulet before she bought it, and we don’t know for sure what her plan was before she put it on and started using it. And as I recall, her attempted agony beam use came literally just after she took the thing off.
From where I’m standing, it would seem out of character for Trixie to go full evil, and put on the amulet with the intent to take over Ponyville. Humiliate Twilight? Sure, I can buy that. But willingly turning evil? Harder to believe, and I don’t read it from how she acts after the amulet is taken off
You’re making some really big assumptions you don’t know that Trixie knew what the amulet would do so don’t act like you do, her actions in the episode show otherwise she clearly states she never meant for that to happen saying she did mean for it to is nothing but headcanon.
She literally just took it off she didn’t even have time to revert yet and again she didn’t start out attacking it wasn’t until the amulet had been on her for some time that she got violent.
If you don’t like Trixie that’s fine hate her for all I care but don’t try to write your headcanons as facts we’ve seen the episode we saw what happened it certainly wasn’t what you are saying.
I´m pretty sure that if someone wrote about the Alicorn Amulet (which they did) they´d specify that it can turn you evil (also, they did). Trixie had to learn of the amulet somewhere and if she did she must have known of the negative consequences of using it.
And yet that didn´t stop her. She used it because her desire for revenge was so great she didn´t give a flying fuck that it could corrupt her. She might have regretted her actions afterwards, but even after taking if off she shot a beam of “agony” at Rainbow Dash and was angry when she just got to tickle her.
She didn’t know it would corrupt her I doubt she would have put it on if she had and she never said she wanted to hurt anyone no where is that even implied she just says she wants to use to GET BACK AT TWI that doesn’t mean attack her heck even when she first shows up to town wearing the amulet she doesn’t attack Twi she just challenges to a duel of skill based magic, she bought it legally from a store that accepted her money and required nothing else to get it all she knew is it would increase her magical ability.
Again, I remit to my comment towards Pagan.
Oh, really? Never evil?
Because obtaining an evil amulet for revenge isn´t evil.
No, the defense that she was corrupted doesn´t count here because she intended to buy it before using it.
She went to the store, pointed at the Amulet and declared her intentions of purchasing it. The owner tried to dissuade her and still she bought it.
She wanted to use it to hurt Twilight and that counts as villainy in my book. Hell, even after the amulet was removed she still tried to make Dash “wallow in agony”.