@saturnstar14
oh trust me people have noticed Peet and her followers double standards. I am sure she did legit watch the video but she is still salty about Josh ending their friendship. Here are some examples of what she has been saying the past couple of days about Josh.
anonymous asked:
They’re not agreeing with your accusations! They’re explaining what they actually did! They didn’t set out with the intention of telling abuse victims to get over it you fag!
I know. I made reference to that.
“Whether they realize it or not, what they’ve actually done is tell abuse victims to just let it go and get over it.” - Blame and Groom ADDENDUM
That’s always been the core problem with the three of them. They’re not good at looking at their sentence structure or the actual makeup of their statements and thinking about it’s implications. By Josh’s own admission, he was constantly being pressured at school for his speech being laden with microaggressions.
Microaggressions are, 95% of the time, accidentally problematic statements made from not thinking about how you form sentences.
Josh admits in the video that anyone who knows him will tell you that he “struggles with tact.” And as someone who knows him, that is true. Of course, there’s the secondary problem in that he just accepts that failing and never actually works on it, and gets annoyed when other people pressure him to do better.
This isn’t even an old failing that’s long past us, the most recent example was two days ago.
By contrast, Finn admits to not fully understanding the nuances of this entire situation, and that’s why he asked Patch to proofread his statement before he went ahead with it, and ultimately his statement was “I don’t know how I can help, so if there’s anything you need don’t hesitate to ask.” Again: Finn is a delightful.
anonymous asked:
Is there any reason to watch Josh’s video, or does it add anything different to the whole pedokritic thing? I’ve listened to half of it and it just seems like him repeating his previous posts on tumblr where he tried to wash his hands off guilt and responsability.
I’m kinda back and forth on whether or not I should give it a deconstruction, both for his own benefit (which will probably be ignored) and for everyone else’s benefit as a comprehensive “Here’s every mistake made along the way, don’t repeat them” guide.
anonymous asked:
Any validity in Josh claims that immediately going public would have hurt law enforcement investigations on Toon?
No. The big hook in this claim is his social media being deleted supposedly interfering with the investigation. However, Twitter, Skype, and Tumblr all keep archives of deactivated accounts explicitly to aid in criminal investigations. One warrant to Twitter and the police would have Zack’s entire Twitter archive, including non-public information like Direct Messages.
Likewise with Skype, Tumblr and Youtube.
anonymous asked:
Honestly, after watching Josh truth video, he is mostly explaining himself. Even though he is dumb as fuck, and never tries to change his ways, I do know he is doing a little better than any of the other analyst, mainly Dr Wolf. He may screwed up in some areas of the video, but at least he tries.
I have in my notes a timestamp for when he explains that the initial prolonged silence on Zak was due to wanting to inform all his friends and colleagues BEFORE Zak could butter them up or the well was poisoned by shitehawks like Horse News.
My notes only say “Why didn’t you say that the first time, instead of all that vague, backpedaling prose about ‘not letting emotions dominate you’?”
This is my third time saying it today, but that is ultimately Josh’s problem. He doesn’t grasp that when he uses neo-con rhetoric about emotions being some kind of bad thing and “facts > feelings”, most people will conclude that he’s just bullshitting to cover his tracks because that’s the kind of rhetoric that a snake-oil salesman would use.
People, including myself, made the connection that he was prioritizing his own comfort over the security of victims, because that’s exactly what that rhetoric says. “#Logic and Reason” is rhetoric used by simpering, far-right crybabies and it would behoove him to avoid using it. Josh is so accustomed to communicating with other Republicans that he doesn’t know how to communicate with actual adults.
Remember last year when I made the claim that Brawny Buck was a neo-nazi and Brawny responded by waxing poetic about people “fearing what they don’t understand”? Well the reason I claimed he was a neo-nazi is because he misgenders trans people, calls being trans a mental illness, and cited a literal neo-nazi (Black Pigeon Speaks) as proof.
If you watch Nazi Youtubers, and you believe the things Nazis believe, what other conclusion is there to come to? If you’re not actually a duck, why are you quacking like one?
Everything in Josh’s original statements were littered with red flags of an enabler and an apologist, largely owing to Josh’s fundamental rejection of the idea that words can be problematic. Josh has ignored every attempt to have his privileged checked, going as far as to accuse the people doing it of abuse, and his dogmatic opposition to what he derides as “snowflakes” and “social justice warriors” has put him in a position where his own attempts to explain himself were the main source of the misinformation he claims happened.
I say claims because every single accusation, from the community complacency to the reliance on God vs actual experience was confirmed in this video. It’s one long string of “Everything Lily said about us was completely, 100% right, hyperbole notwithstanding.”
This last one is a dozy.
anonymous asked:
Just watched Joshs video. At least he apologised to you and Patchwork. And we got an apology from the Doc from the mouth too. Not one from Silver though. Josh even said about how Toon tried to convince Joshs girlfriend, Amarau, into giving him a second chance. Still, the question is, do you accept the apology?
No. I said before and I’ll say it again: I don’t take apologies. I take results. I’ve had people, Josh included, apologize to me for something they’ve done only to never once correct that behavior.
This isn’t the first time Josh has thrown wild accusations at me in a rush to discredit criticism, and it certainly wasn’t the worst example of it. And any apology for throwing wild accusations is a hollow one while the worst example of it is still up on his Youtube channel.
I haven’t talked about this, but Josh’s abrupt accusations of emotional abuse had a severe impact on me. Remember he never said anything to me, not even a one-sided message. There was a vague Tumblr post about “realizing you’re in an abusive relationship” that I saw when I woke up one morning. And when I saw this, I actually messaged him on Skype asking him if he was alright.
It took an hour to realize I was the one he was talking about. If you’re wondering how that can happen, if you block someone on Skype and DON’T immediately remove them from your contacts, you appear as just “Offline” to them. It was only when Lizzy remarked that he was on “Do Not Disturb” that I learned this, and I confirmed it was me he was talking about by checking my Battle.Net Friends to notice he was absent from it.
I spent the next few days trying to figure out what the fuck I’d actually done. I was going over a year’s worth of chat logs trying to find something I’d missed. It was only a few weeks later when I read the “Open Letter” from Alex Rochon that I finally found out the reason: I repeatedly challenged him on his ignorant and dehumanizing views.
To say that I was furious was an understatement. I listened to this guy yammer on about how everyone’s so sensitive these days and nobody can handle being challenged, and when challenged himself he ran and cried and tried to paint me as abusive. And he still was too much of a coward to say it to my face. He had to do it quietly while I was asleep.
But what I was more furious about was that I spent quite a while doubting myself. Wondering if similar defensive accusations from two other people might have actually had some weight to them. I actually asked both Lizzy and Ethan “Am I abusive?” And they had to convince me that I wasn’t. And to this day I get small panic attacks if I suspect that my friends are unhappy with me and not saying something because “Oh my god, did I do something?”
That’s the only time somebody has ever successfully gaslit me.
So no, a flimsy apology with no certainty of change isn’t good enough.