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@neutralgrey  
I just meant that it seems like you would pick it up regardless as a side affect of where you live.
 
@Background Human  
It’s raining salt hallelujah it’s raining salt~

Confession time: back in 2008, I wrote off Obama’s election as the result of white guilt, a cult of personality, and the eternal desire for free shit. In time I softened on the man, and on those who voted for him. But now? Now all that cynicism is flooding back tenfold. Apparently the American people can’t be trusted with any decision more complex than Coke or Pepsi. All I can do now is put my faith in the Constitution, in a separation of powers guarded by the jealous ambition of mainstream Republicans. Maybe this will be the thing that finally breaks the stranglehold of executive power in this country.

@Background Pony #4641  
I’m not really religious, my family hardly goes to Church now, only like a few times a year.

@neutralgrey  
I’m a bit surprised you never learned this considering where you live.
 
@Ebalosus  
Quality reporting. :I

@Background Pony #4641  
Good to know.

@neutralgrey  
Pretty much, if I recall correctly the only part of it that is explicitly anti-gay is also the part that says you can’t wear mixed clothing and stuff and most religious authorities tend to ignore outright because it was in the Jew section.

@Background Pony #4641  
So basically there is no backing for anti-gay positions in the bible then? I’ve only heard that it’s in Leviticus though I don’t exactly study the bible.

@neutralgrey  
To me it does, in fact I think that to everyone that isn’t a Jew it probably should.

@Background Pony #4641  
So does it fall within the irrelevant category?

@neutralgrey  
Leviticus is a book of the Demiurge. :I

@Cirrus Light  
Ok, for your first point I ask this, is Leviticus among those now basically defunct holy laws?
 
For your second point, I believe that God is supposed to be the ultimate good and loves us all. You know he’s like our father, and a good father loves their children no matter what. Yeah sure if we do bad things he’ll get mad at us, but he still loves us. I don’t think he’ll condemn people to hell if they do things like get married to someone of the same sex, or were born to the wrong family that worshipped God but only called him by a different name. I don’t think God is petty, I believe that so long as you’re not a jerk who kicks puppies 24/7 or a murderous lunatic you’re ok in his book.
 
As for the third point, the federal government has to step in and repeal those unjust laws from the states that had them. So my point is, sometimes a state will have an unjust and unconstitutional law that must repealed. If a state suddenly starts implementations sharia law, you better believe that the federal government is going to stop that.
 
As for your fourth point, what are you talking about? I’ve hardly ever seen an atheist character in a show, I’ve only seen a few actually. There was that one sergeant in Generation Kill but even though he was sort of the main character he was an asshole. I think the Punisher is an atheist, but not really, he believes in God but says things like “God is gonna have to sit this one out” or something like that. There are plenty of positive representations of Christians in the media. In the show Band of Brothers there was this one Chaplain who was calmly giving dead soldiers their last rites while a battle was happening around him, in Fallout New Vegas one of the characters Joshua Graham was once a ruthless villain until he had a near death experience and found God again and became a badass Mormon, in Mass Effect the player character can also say they believe in God, in We Were Soldiers the main character is religious and in one scene is shown praying with one of the troops under his command, in Hacksaw Ridge the main character is also religious and if memory serves me correctly in the trailer he’s praying to God to help him save one more soldier. I can go on and on and on man!

@Commune  
I thought it was the shitposting thread?

@NotYourAverageLurker  
You know what thread we are in Bucko  
The Drama threa

@Commune  
Can we just go back to talking about Star vs The Forces of Evil and some Indomie?

@Background Pony #4641  
But Communism is the Weed of the People  
Cause it dank

@Commune  
Strange, that quote could also almost perfectly describe communism…

“Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.”-A Great Man(Karl Marx)

@neutralgrey  
Well I was talking about marriage specifically and not the other parts to religion.
 
@Cirrus Light  
I wonder why God even had to make a second set of laws in the first place honestly…

@Background Pony #4641  
Agreed on the first point.
 
As for the second point I also agree and say that there are plenty of good things about religion, like taking care of the sick, the poor, the downtrodden all that good stuff I’m just against the shit that says you can’t worship other gods, you can’t wear this, you can’t eat that, you know stuff like that.

@neutralgrey  
Actually, those things are in the mosaic law, which was “fulfilled” in Jesus, and no longer to be enforced, so much like your own objections, their objections were based on a lack of understanding of the scripture. Furthermore, those laws were particularly prescribed to those people at that time, not to humankind forever in general. The bible isn’t the human race’s guidebook, it’s a record of prophesies and religious events among the ancient Jews, and a testament of Christ - at least the old testament, the object of interest, here. Since mainstream Christianity does not believe in more modern revelations, they’re stuck with trying to extrapolate this, which is unfortunate and the cause of much contention and divisiveness.
 
Fair enough on your beliefs, though, but I think God has given us a bit of a lifeline - giving us lifelines all the time, whether we recognize them or not - and in particular, one with hints of truth that can help us if we listen. But that’s for each person to discover, and they must listen, ask and search to hear and find.
 
As for your message in general, it’s a good thing people wisened up and became more tolerant, but the problem isn’t democracy, and I doubt you meant to insinuate that, yet what you presented is an unavoidable result of representative government: the people will vote their beliefs. Others will disagree, no duh, but you can only hope the majority will be right - or, from your own view, that they will agree with you. I’m sorry this seems to trouble you.
 
As for atheism, movies and tv scarcely paint religion in a positive light, prayers aren’t allowed in schools, they don’t even say the freaking pledge anymore because it says “under God”, and public nativity scenes had their drama war. If atheists are hated, they got it in a crusade that has earned the ire of the people in general. Using law to keep the school choir from singing their favorite and traditional, beautiful Christmas hymn because it mentions God will earn their ire. This and nativity scenes are just the tip of an enormous iceberg of evangelical atheists trying to shut people up and making enemies.

@neutralgrey  
It shouldn’t have the capacity for exclusivity, the fact that the government is the grand arbiter of who you can and can’t marry is sickening to me.
 
And I was talking about marriage obviously, if you were to take away all the government nonsense than you would be left with a purely religious or spiritual ceremony.

@Background Pony #4641  
Because it’s now not exclusive to people who are religious, atheists can also get married and have a secular wedding.
 
@Background Pony #4641  
As for this question, could you specify what ceremony? Also it should be worth noting that the idea of a secular government is fading since we now have a bunch of religious nuts like Ted Cruz holding positions of power within our government.

@Background Pony #4641  
I appreciate the explanation :D
 
If I ever got really serious with someone, or ended up having kids with someone, I’d probably marry the person because that’s what I’ve seen other people do, and I wouldn’t want to hurt my partners feelings.
 
I’d still have to have a long conversation with that person about what it means to them.
 
@Cirrus Light  
Thank you for your explanation as well. If I asked my folks why they got married, it would probably be some variation of “tradition”. Seeing your definition reminded me of why its important to ask :3

@neutralgrey  
Why is marriage even still a legal thing at this point? We should have just done away with it when we separated church and state.