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Are you a master race if only 0.00000001% of your race can do everything, and often you wind up with Telekinesis that can’t open a peanut butter jar?
 
I think the fandom’s sense of stuff is screwed since we only see the masterfully exceptional unicorns.
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@Dustcan
 
To me it’s more like Quadratic Wizards vs Linear Fighters.
 
Top tier wizards are objectively better than top tier fighters, but few wizards reach that level, and until they do they’re on average weaker than your average fighter.
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@cheezedoodle  
Assuming she is utilizing a combination of earth and unicorn magic is the only way to not shit all over existing lore.
Well, depending on the canonicity of Gillian Berrow’s books, she very well might be. Do you remember one of the first chapter books she wrote, Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell?  
 
If I may offer a quote:  
She was officially a part of a special breed of pony called an Alicorn. This meant that Twilight was now able to harness the magical powers of the Unicorns, the flight abilities of the Pegasi, and the strength of a good, true heart of an Earth Pony.
I mean, it may be a bit of a stretch, but if you consider alicorns as embodying a part of each traditional pony tribe, who’s to say they don’t also have access to some of those group’s unique magical skills? Plus, lest we forget, Twilight is clever and talented where magic is concerned. If anyone was going to learn something outside the typical unicorn variant, I’d put money on it being her.
 
Alternatively, it could be that the account we’re given describing the earth ponies as the sole possessors of plant growing magic is a misleading or simplified version of the historical reality. You don’t need to delve into all 47 scrolls of the Unicornia Accords or review historical documents pertaining to the specific details of Princess Platinum’s politically heated renegotiations with the farming communities to put on a seasonal play, after all. Heck, for all we know the strict division depicted only existed in that brief time period. We as viewers only join the story when the tribes have become bitterly divided, inviting the windigos to come and cause further trouble. Given that they had survived a fair amount of time prior to that (at least long enough to have kingdoms), maybe there was a time when unicorns farmed with their earth pony friends.
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@Background Pony #64E8  
…but if you consider alicorns as embodying a part of each traditional pony tribe…
 
I thought that much was evident from my post.
 
Heck, for all we know the strict division depicted only existed in that brief time period. We as viewers only join the story when the tribes have become bitterly divided, inviting the windigos to come and cause further trouble. Given that they had survived a fair amount of time prior to that (at least long enough to have kingdoms), maybe there was a time when unicorns farmed with their earth pony friends.
 
No doubt unicorns and pegasi are capable of growing crops but earth tribe is supposed to be the best at it. I’m sure we’ve already spent far more time analyzing it than any of the writers did, but based on
 

 
They took the main job AJ should be best at and give it to OP Horse.
 
It’s having like Dash wrangling the critters or Fluttershy cloudbusting.
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@cheezedoodle  
I thought that much was evident from my post.
Well I know you mentioned that having Twilight use earth pony magic was the only way for it to make sense, but I wasn’t sure if you were saying that because that’s what you actually thought was happening, or because you just wanted to mention a potential explanation. I suppose I should have clarified that in my response a bit.
 
 
@cheezedoodle  
No doubt unicorns and pegasi are capable of growing crops but earth tribe is supposed to be the best at it.
And they probably still are, compared to a typical unicorn. It’s just that Twilight has never been typical, and is no longer just a unicorn, so it’s understandable she’d have a bit more ability in that regard.
 
 
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I’m sure we’ve already spent far more time analyzing it than any of the writers did
That seems a little mean spirited to say.
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@rdibp  
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I’m pretty sure the flowers growing like that is just supposed to be a visual cue in the song, and isn’t actually happening in real time.
I mean, it’s not like something like this was real. Unless if they have magical teleporting powers.
 
Everything else in this particular song was real actions happening in real-time during a few hours of one afternoon (I just re-watched it). I fully believe that the flower growth is intended to be taken as it appears.
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If anyone would know a spell for rapid plant growth it would be Twilight. It was still a mistake to show her doing magic on the plants, at least with her horn. I could let it slide if the magic was more passive like Applejack’s and that would have had the bonus of implying that Twilight has been studying her earth pony side. In the episode Applejack should have been tending the crops while Twilight rolled all the snow into a ball or something.
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@cheezedoodle  
I’m probably one of the show’s & comic’s biggest cheerleaders
Yes, you really are. For what it’s worth though, I like that about you.
 
 
@cheezedoodle  
This is just a really annoying head-shaker that has me salty.
Well we are all entitled to at least one. I have a pretty big Trixie related one myself.
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On an unrelated note, I’m kind of irritated that Australia has apparently aired the next episode. We finally catch up, and now it’s back to being behind and having to filter everything again. Only worse since we don’t know when the US releases will return.
 
Nothing like making a long hiatus longer.
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@Mildgyth  
No kidding. It’s been bad enough in the discussion, fanart, and screencap department when the separation between early viewers and US viewers was only a couple of weeks. It might be literal months before we get to see the episode Australia let go, and now on top of that we’ll likely have to spend weeks dealing with the near impossibility of avoiding Applejack’s family too.
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The episode schedule has never been more messed up than it is this season. It’s a free-for-all with these foreign networks airing episodes whenever they want. There needs to be a central authority keeping everything on schedule.
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I go the middle way; i don’t avoid spoilers but don’t watch until its proper time.
I do try to keep myself spoiler free, but I’m also aware there’s no 100% effective way to do that short of locking myself away in a room somewhere with no internet capable devices. Fortunately (or so I tell myself), knowing something will happen doesn’t mean knowing how or why it does, so even when big things do get revealed (like Daybreaker did) I tend to take solace in knowing that prior knowledge does not mean there is nothing left to experience.
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@rdibp  
I wouldn’t know. We’re in the hiatus now and apparently nobody knows when it will end. I don’t see why it should be difficult to establish a schedule for a show so that everyone is on the same page.
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