The great GamerGate discussion. (Stuff and things)

@SeraphimDawn  
He’s allowed to be. Her and Anita barged into his party demanding progressive money.

@SeraphimDawn  
When you retire in your 30s with literally billions of dollars on your account you can afford to not give a fuck about what people on the internet think about you.

It’s funny how both Notch and Pewdiepie are from Sweden and are few of the most outspoken persons speaking against the media narratives being peddled.
 
It is as if they know what it is like to live in a overtly PC culture that you can’t say anything against, unless you have enough fuck you money to compensate.

@Turkeynomster  
I’ve spoken with Swedes, and they are incredibly willfully ignorant or too afraid to say anything since houses have been raided over for such.

!Heh. The stereotypes make me more hyped  
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@Whatevs  
Fuckin’ called it.

@Whatevs  
Forget her, the game looks kickass.

@PonyPon  
She does work at Ubisoft, so already he views shouldn’t be taken seriously.

@Cyborg_pony  
Is she working on Beyond Good and Evil 2 as well?
 
If so, concern.

@Whatevs  
I don’t really see what’s wrong with her tweets I mean mexican culture has been degraded to such a stereotype in media and she even says there’s nothing wrong with enjoying the game, she just’s tired of this cultural degradation
 
@PonyPon  
She even says she is excited for the game

Mario is already an Italian stereotype btw

@Commune  
Degraded, how do we ‘fix’ it then?
 
Seems like every reference to world culture is a seed of racism waiting to sprout.
 
Am I expected to believe no Mexicans wear sombreros?

@Whatevs  
True and that’s not a great thing  
But considering they turned Mario into this  

 
He is just a commodity as this point  
They will turn Mario into a fucking Indian if they have to Nintendo gives no shits

@PonyPon  
The problem is that Mexicans are ultimately defined in the media by their stereotypes  
Culture is degraded and consumerized by the culture industry
 
To fix this, well, Rebecca even gives her liberal solution for it, just be mindful of other cultures in your life  
Though I disagree(heavily), I’ll just leave it at that

@Turkeynomster  
We all know it’s going to be garbage. Ubisoft can help put ham-fist Diversity wherever they can.

@Commune  
The poncho, sombrero and mariachi band are the most distinct and memorable part of Mexican culture. Some cultures have nothing special to truly latch unto and makes them non contenders.
 
Culture becoming degraded due to consumerism is a dull argument, because the commercialization is only using what is already there and any product that uses it will rarely if ever supplant the original idea it was based on. You can’t sell a product with a national flag in it unless people already believed in what it symbolizes and the loose associations with it. For holidays such as Christmas, there is something to be said about the corruption of consumerism, but if Christmas had no presents and time off work, I doubt people would be as excited for it as a holiday to begin with. A tradition that has nothing to offer is forgotten or becomes a remote niche, which is the alternative that isn’t all that much better.
 
Commercialization of culture has existed since Rome. There is nothing special about it other than the advent of mass media and the emergence of a wealthy middle class worth catering to, historically speaking.

Nah, I don’t know where I was going with that.

@Turkeynomster  
Also, Don’t they usually sell those in souvenir shops IN Mexico?

@Turkeynomster  
I’m not going to expand any further because I will have to go into Frankfurt School territory and I don’t think the Mods would like that but let’s just say when your culture becomes consumerized, many aspects of your culture disappear as the most outlandish and most appealing to the lowest common denominator(I.e they start appealing to people who aren’t even part of your culture) start taking over in the media and many things once held sacred or had a good feeling to them start getting commodified  
I mean, in Japan, KFC is associated with Christmas  
I’ll leave it at that
 
@Cyborg_pony  
Again, consumerism

@Cyborg_pony  
Mostly because of tourism I’d think, which could be argued is a sign of the evils of capitalism that offers cheap memorabilia that you don’t have to buy if you don’t want to. I haven’t exactly researched how commonly the attire is used there by its citizens, currently.
 
Likely it isn’t anymore offensive than buying a Hawaiian Hula-doll, unless it is intentionally used to smear Mexicans as a demographic.

@Commune  
Fair enough.
 
I’d still add that people only have jurisdiction to preserve their national and unique culture within their own borders and such responsibility can not be enforced unto others, unless you want to become an isolationist nation. Policing how other people disseminate cultural icons outside the nation is a foolhardy task and the commodification of culture is more due to globalism and the post-modern individualization of cultural preferences than capitalism. You’d have to make specific examples for me to consider it an issue, because right now, it’s too vague and truist for me to think capitalism is the main force responsible for it.

@Commune
 
>Implying that Frankfurt School has anything to add other than being a complete crock of shit
 

@Ebalosus  
“They hated the Frankfurt School because he told them the truth”

Speaking of cultural appropriation, the UN has some preliminary plans to make it illegal world wide. They’re basically trying to advocate for expanding intellectual property (language, cultural expressions, genetic material) laws in multiple countries to cover indigenous people’s rights not to have their intellectual property showcased in media or exhibitions without asking them first; who has the right to grant this privilege unto someone from any given culture will probably be figured out later on. In other words, all video games would become pure and white stories with only a few cultures present to prevent law suits, which I guess is something some people would be cheerful about. That or for some reason the law will only be applied haphazardly towards only a few select demographics.
 
I am only glad that the UN is a bureaucratic money funneling scam that has no authority to demand anything.
 
Heatstreet and Huffington Post articles about it to cover some basis.