The great GamerGate discussion. (Stuff and things)

DeathCloud

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@Commune  
If somebody consider FPS game as educational piece it is that person problem.  
All your arguments come down to same manthra “games will make you violent/racist/sexist/etc”.
 
Lack of research in setting may be bad (or not) but it don’t make it offensive or “brainwashing”  
If game made any claims it was more based in facts not being fiction using RL events as setting for it, than you have some valid reason to complain but not in way.
 
WW2 doing shit like that all time, even ignoring cartoonish ans stuff stuff like Wolfstein games barely portray WW2 accurately. Real crimes are either exegerated in unrealistic manner or downplayed and ignored. Holocaust and other war crimes are barely mentioned. You may see generic villainy from nazis but focus mass executions and camps have little chance to happen. You more like see clean Wermaht, especially if you control them. Grand Strategy games, one what could actually potray Holocaust in its scale are omitting it on purpose to not be target of angry mob and to sale their games in Germany. Or how Eastern front always portrayed as demoralized cowardly soviet solders zerg rushing german position witohut any heavy support or maybe even maybe weapons like if it was start of Barbarossa and not any other part of WW2 (all thanks to Enemy At The Gates).
 
So yeah, WW2 games are even worse than Cartel in this regard, you overreacting.
Vortaxonus

@Commune  
Honestly i put the “few thousand death holocaust” above “DUR MEXICANS SNEAK ACROSS THE BORDER TO STEAL OUR WOMENZ AND SELL EM BACK IN MEXICO”. Because a few thousand or six million it’s still a shit ton of dead people then the complete reversal here.
DeathCloud

Agent of Shadows
@Commune  
Cartel dont spread missinformation any more than WW2 shooters. And you shouldn’t expect shooter game to be accurate unless devs claims that it is accurate.
 
And I watched that Extra Credits vid, not fully, switches it off at some point annoyed with bullshit. (like claiming game is indoctrination)
DeathCloud

Agent of Shadows
So if Germans were black acording to BF and COD, especially with black Nazis. I can’t be racist toward blacks because blacks opresseded my people as Germans for some time (especially WW2). : P
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@DeathCloud  
So you understand anything about psychology  
There is this thing called subliminal messaging and it can happen unintentionally plus it is just insulting to the victims of a conflict that is currently happening
 
@Cyborg_pony  
Its in the multiplayer which isn’t the most realistic thing in the world  
Maybe if it was in the single player I understand but the multiplayer is just for fun
 
Even then, it’s not the worst thing COD have done  
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@Commune  
>”There is this thing called subliminal messaging”  
>Something that actually doesn’t work.  
>At all.
DeathCloud

Agent of Shadows
@Commune  
So what, subliminal messaging actually influence people view on Mexicans because of this game? Do other games cause same thing? Are you going to blame racism or violence on video games?
 
Also any game based on real conflict can be insulting for its victims. Why this game is only special one you mention.  
Or maybe its not problem with game but with you that you find it insulting?
Turkeynomster

@DeathCloud  
It’s not even towards Mexicans, just the slight bent in M.O. within their drug cartels. Economic opportunism dictates that it is more financially beneficial to sell to a country with a more affluent populace and they can kidnap women in an area where the police are in the pockets of those same cartels. For a more accurate picture, you would also have to check in if the cartels are selling American women within American crime networks, rather than transported outside of American borders for lesser returns. Nevermind that it is impossible to have official, accurate statistic on the true dealings of an active crime syndicate, like Extra Credits claims.
 
I don’t mind the conversation, however things are getting derailed again if it continues any further.
Absol95

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GG threads should be allowed on either on halfchan /v/ or /vg/. Damn majority of the current mods are either Far leftist dunces or basement dwelling recluses who are often dull-minded. FIRE THEM ALREADY, HIRO!
 
Oh, and many gamergate supporters are dull-minded when it comes to any(or most, if not all) criticism of Trump. Usually they respond with stuff like brash or pretentious assumptions that you are either a Hillary lover, a goon from Something Awful, or erroneously label you a “cuck”. A severe majority of current GG threads on 8ch.net, 5chon, and to a slightly lesser extent, endchan, quickly turns into a circlejerk of egotism, baseless name-calling, and hating on other’s opinions.
Absol95

IN-TELLI-VISION!
@Commune
So what, subliminal messaging actually influence people view on Mexicans because of this game? Do other games cause same thing? Are you going to blame racism or violence on video games?
Also any game based on real conflict can be insulting for its victims. Why this game is only special one you mention.
Or maybe its not problem with game but with you that you find it insulting?
 
He doesn’t know all the ins and outs of such messaging. The effects vary by factors such as the recipient’s age, IQ level, and overall willpower.
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@DeathCloud
No, but people expect it to at least to be accurate
As for WWII, at least they don’t spread extreme misinformation which is insulting to the victims of the conflict in their mechanics and story
You mean like all those CoD and MoH games that conveniently ignore the 20-40 million Soviet deaths it took to bring down the Nazis. One thing you AmeriFatFucks cant seem to grasp is that it was the communists that did the heavy lifting when it came to bringing down Hitler.
 
But hey, they allegedly swung the election, so who cares about them amirite?
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